re: Can you spot the NFL HOF Quarterback?

Whoops. Got confused b/w who was who for a second there. Sorry.

But then why did you take issue w/ me pointing out what was wrong in another poster's statement when you asked if anyone saw something wrong w/ it?

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You have been spitting out stats, but I've yet to hear your argument for Namath in the HOF. Tell me why he is in over Stabler. Please save the brought credability to the AFL crap.

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relative to his HoF peers of his era his numbers stack up and in some cases greatly exceed them

relative to the HoF peers of his era his offensive production for his team stack up and in some cases greatly exceed them

relative to his team, he was the unquestioned leader and dominant offensive player on a Super Bowl Champion caliber team

relative to his team, he was the dominant offensive player on some really shitty and one dimensional teams for most of his career

relative to the League, he was the biggest star in the biggest market with the biggest target on his back every Sunday. Yet he still delivered the goods despite his injury history and in some cases very suspect personnel to play with.

relative to the media, he delivered the blow to the NFL that legitimized the AFL and provided the mechanism for the merger that propelled the League to great heights

That is not a HoF caliber QB to you?

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fail

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and again

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The only thing impressive about Namath was his swagger.

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Actually he had an extraordinarily quick wrist delivery. Bear Bryant called him "The best athlete I ever coached".

Namath had 3 or 4 great years and I would rather have him at his height as my QB than, say, Fran Tarkenton. But that doesn't mean he belongs in the HOF.

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supatigah

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That is not a HoF caliber QB to you?

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No. I'd take Hadl or Stabler over him.

But I'd like to thank you for keeping me on my toes for a couple of hours. This is what makes this site fun. Differing opinions about the sports we love.

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a lot of Namath's legend is more the product of his larger-than-life personality combined w/ playing in New York

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Well duh... Hard to argue with that

The problem is too many of the posters in this thread are SFPing*










*SFP, v. To take sports statistics out of historical context. Origin not known.

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Sammy Baugh > Joe Namath

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In 1943 Sammy Baugh led the league in passing, in interceptions as a defensive back, and punting -- yet did not win the MVP award...

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In 1943 Sammy Baugh led the league in passing, in interceptions as a defensive back, and punting -- yet did not win the MVP award...

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Okay. I had to check out who won. Sid Luckman...who beat Baugh's Redskins in the championship game.

And, although Profootball-Reference ranks Baugh (1st) above Luckman (2) that year, Luckman's numbers were much better (not sure how they determined the ranking).

BTW...I think Baugh should be in the top 10 QBs...maybe top 5.

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I just discovered an interesting fact about Yds/Comp.

Out of the best 201 yd/comp seasonal stats put up by QBs, only 3 have occurred after 1990. One is ranked 27th, the other two are 150th+.

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Completions were longer in the pre-West Coast days

OK. How about this group:

Player A-164 starts, 3279-5885, 55.7%, 38618yds, 192 Tds, 187 INTs
Player B-153 starts, 2841-4923, 57.7%, 34837yds, 203 TDs, 175 INTs
Player C-150 starts, 2753-4624, 59.5%, 31928yds, 182 TDs, 107 INTs
Player D-165 starts, 2898-4715, 61.5%, 32942 yds, 165 TDs, 141 Ints