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re: bradley won that fight

Posted on 6/10/12 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 5:37 pm to
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This wasn't a close fight. Pacquiao was 150-1 favorite in live betting going in to the 12th for gods sake.
Wow that's pretty amazing.
Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
Member since Jul 2007
3809 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 5:55 pm to
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The only close rounds were the 10th and maybe the 12th besides that Pacquiao landed the 5 most significant punches in each round and out landed him overall.


The absolute very worst I could have seen scoring this fight for Pacquiao was Bradley taking 1, 2, 10, 12; Pacquiao taking 6 rounds, with two ties. I can't remember one of the rounds I had as a possible 10-10, but the other was 11.

At the very worst:
Bradley -- 114
Pacquiao -- 116

I thought Pacquiao dominated the fight physically, but I can see how someone would've had it close on the scorecard--just with Pacquiao still winning.

And I watched the fight in a bar with no sound.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18457 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 5:55 pm to
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Im with you my man. I had it a draw too. I just watched it again twice. Now i have Bradley winning by a round. Jab and counter punching won him the fight. Am im not scared to say it. I tell people all the time its boxing not street fighting. They dont call it the sweet science for nothing.

Pacquiao whipped that arse and rocked Bradley's world more than once. When you look at the compubox #'s, it's almost scary. Landed more and landed with A LOT more accuracy. How bout that sweet science? Pacquiao ran away with that fight in every possible way. Like another poster said, the only category Bradley had the upper hand in was the got my arse whipped category.




The ONLY explanation I can see is that the judges punished Pacquiao for taking the first two minutes off in several rounds. The thing is, Bradley didn't do a damn thing in those two minutes that Pac was resting and in the final minute, Pacquiao delivered a one sided beating.


Bottom line, this fight was fixed before the opening bell.





Now tell me this rematch wasn't set up prior to last night.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 6:01 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82055 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:01 pm to
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Pacquiao was 150-1 favorite in live betting going in to the 12th


What?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:06 pm to
150-1 basically means you were betting on Pacquiao breaking his leg or a freak cut.
Posted by TIGERSandFROGS
Member since Jul 2007
3809 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:07 pm to
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quote:

Pacquiao was 150-1 favorite in live betting going in to the 12th


What?


I think he means where the bets were going, not the odds. For every 150 bets to Pac, 1 went to Bradley.

I'm honestly surprised it was that close. I was in a bar with 150+ people, and I would've called anyone in there willing to lay a bet on Bradley going into the 12th round a complete idiot. I don't think there was anyone in there that would've thought that though.

Edit: K, maybe not, haha.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 6:09 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:09 pm to
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I think he means where the bets were going, not the odds. For every 150 bets to Pac, 1 went to Bradley.

I'm honestly surprised it was that close. I was in a bar with 150+ people, and I would've called anyone in there willing to lay a bet on Bradley going into the 12th round a complete idiot. I don't think there was anyone in there that would've thought that though.



According to people tweeting from the sportsbooks in Vegas those were the odds going in to the 12th.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18457 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:14 pm to
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Jab and counter punching won him the fight


Jab totals:

Pacquiao - 63/258...24%
Bradley - 51/449...11%

quote:

I tell people all the time its boxing not street fighting. They dont call it the sweet science for nothing.


Total punches:

Pacquiao - 253/751...34%
Bradley - 159/839...19%




and for the record, Power punches:

Pacquiao - 190/493...39%
Bradley - 108/390...28%




Tell me again about that sweet science and how it won Bradley the fight

WTF were you watching?
Posted by Louisianimal83
Lithia Springs, GA
Member since Jan 2009
1606 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:16 pm to
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Marciano1


I respect your fight knowledge from prior boxing post you made on here. Watch the fight again and you'll see a different outcome. You know boxing.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82055 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:30 pm to
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150-1 basically means you were betting on Pacquiao breaking his leg or a freak cut.


No. 150-1 is an underdog odds not a favorite odds.
I think you mean 1-150. If he really was 150-1 that means that bookie already knew he was gonna lose.
Posted by Royal Tiger Fan
Cali
Member since Dec 2008
1162 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:35 pm to
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Marciano1


quote:

Louisianimal83
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32461 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:54 pm to
You're a fraud, if you had that fight a draw you either didn't watch it, or just an idiot.
Posted by Royal Tiger Fan
Cali
Member since Dec 2008
1162 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:54 pm to
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Marciano1


quote:

Louisianimal83


quote:

I respect your fight knowledge from prior boxing post you made on here. Watch the fight again and you'll see a different outcome. You know boxing.


I agree w/ Louisianimal about you Marciano....However i watched the fight twice, and to the casual fan i can see how they think Pacquaio got rob. But true boxing fans who understand the sport can see that this was a close fight.

If folks should be mad at anyone it should be Pacquaio. If he had fought every minute of every round with the same tenacity as he did in the last minute of every round then we would be talking of a different result. This wasnt the first fight Pac has fought like this; he dit it against Mosely and Marquez last year. This time it caught up with him.


And I agree with you about Jim Lampley, Louisianimal83. Watch rd1 again. Bradley clearly outpaced PAC and landed flush shots, none of which was mentioned by HBO annoucers. PAC a straight left in the last minute of the round and Lampley almost jumped out of his seat in excitement and then stated PAC won the round
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32461 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:59 pm to
Another idiot, ive watched boxing since I was 8 that casual viewer is a buncha crap. PAC dominated that fight, yet a few trolls wanna keep stirring up shite. That fight was NOT close by any means Bradley won 2 rounds if you wanna stretch give him 3. Dude got destroyed, and the fix was clearly on.
Posted by Royal Tiger Fan
Cali
Member since Dec 2008
1162 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:16 pm to
I'm a grown man, so i'm not into the namecalling because it's easy to sit behind a computer and call a man an idiot without having to face the consequences of doing so. However I will argue my point with merit.

I had Bradley winning Rds 1,2,9,10,11,12. That's six rounds. I had Pac winning 3,4,5,6,7,8. That's six rounds which would equal my 114-114 draw. In rounds 3-8 PAC did dominate Bradley....it is also the meat of the fight with most people viewing. At the end of the eigth PAC shoulda been up 6-2. In the minds of many folks Pac should have already won the fight because he throughly won those rounds. However, if you just look at the last four rounds of the fight PAC did nothing in the first 2 minutes (except the 11th when he did nothing at all) and rallied at the end with flurries and most of the punches didnt even land.

PAC left a lot on the table. If he would have pressed the issue in the end of the fight he would have won by a wide margin. He took rounds off, and put the fight in the hands of the judges.

What's your arguement instead of claiming for a fix that you said was "clearly on" (a fix you have yet to offer proof of...or as we say on TD Link?)
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33676 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:18 pm to
Atta way to come clean this up for me y'all...
Posted by Louisianimal83
Lithia Springs, GA
Member since Jan 2009
1606 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:20 pm to
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PAC dominated that fight


Yeah he did if each round was only 40 seconds. But their are 3 minute rounds. And he was inactive and uneffective for 80% of it. It's not trolling if its true. Pac gave the fight away. Watch the fight again objectively and you could see that too. You cant discount Bradley's jab, counter punching and body work just because he doesnt have any power and it wasnt flashy. Points are points, it doesnt matter how soft or hard the punch comes.
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46121 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:24 pm to
None of Bradley's hits did anything. He hit pacs gloves then just got whaled on


I don't know how anyone could think that clown won the fight
Posted by Louisianimal83
Lithia Springs, GA
Member since Jan 2009
1606 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:24 pm to
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Marciano1


Come on man, you know punch stat numbers are always wrong.
Posted by Louisianimal83
Lithia Springs, GA
Member since Jan 2009
1606 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:28 pm to
Yall just watch the fight objectively again. Then you would see when Pac was whaling on Tim alot of them didnt land and if they did Tim was right there throwing his own shots.
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