re: Boxing vs. MMA

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that's a fair point but when most older boxers (who are still fighting) can't speak clearly I think it's reasonable to infer they are taking more brain damage over their careers

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Oh, it's definitely a reasonable conclusion. We just don't know for sure.

I actually started a thread a couple of months ago where I wondered whether the NFL would suffer the same fate as boxing where the best, brightest, and most gifted athletes will look at the condition of the older NFL stars and decide that there are safer ways to profit off of their talents.

It's definitely a concern that I think boxing has taken steps to address: Less rounds, referees are much quicker to stop fights when a boxer gets in trouble, etc.

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Mayweather will make more in 1 fight against Mosley then Liddell GSP and Silva combined have made in there careers.

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According to BusinessWeek LINK

Manny Pacquiao (No. 72)
Emelianenko (No. 82)
Floyd Mayweather Jr. (No. 91)
Lesnar No. 96

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do you honestly think its even 20% of Floyd or Pacman

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Yes.

Now take Floyd, Manny, Hatton, out of the boxing world and who makes more than any guy that's headlined an MMA PPV in the last 2-3 years?

Again Boxing payouts for big fights without any of the above guys get good money, but the under cards are unwatchable and making less than 10k.


Also look at the trends. MMA ppv buys get bigger and bigger every year. Boxing not so much. Take away Mike Tyson and you lose 4 of the top five boxing PPVs. Take away Oscar and you lose number 1 and 6. The top grossing boxing ppv guys aren't fighting anymore.

for MMA

LINK

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In 20 PPV events, the promotion has topped the 600,000 buy mark ten times, three of which garnered over one million buys (UFC 91, 92, and 100). In the 20 previous PPV events, UFC 58 to UFC 79, the promotion has six top the 600,000 buy mark and one (UFC 66) surpass one million buys. Prior to UFC 60 (the first to break 600,000 buys) the UFC had not had an event go over 500,000.

In 2008, five of 12 events bested 600,000 buys.

Through eight PPV’s in 2009, five have gone over 600,000 buys.

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I won't hate on anybody else's opinion, but MMA doesn't feel like a "sport" to me, no matter how many times I try to watch it. It simply feels barbaric and trashy

I boxed and wrestled growing up, so you might think I'd enjoy MMA as a natural extension, but I just don't

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They judged on who they think won the fight not the point system

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+1

Watch Dream

MMA could make itself so much better if they got away from the Boxing scoring system. It's come far enough as a separate sport now. Make this happen.


Ring >> Cage. IMO.

Nothing's worse than 3 minutes of pressed up against the cage.

Edit... except maybe 3 rounds of feeling each other out with jabs (boxing or mma)

You really think Fedor has made even 20% as much as Flyod and Pacman have

The most popular fighters in MMA are WWF guys Shamrock and Lesnar. Couture and Liddell are the only other guys real popular to the average sports fan. And Mayweather has probable made more money in his last 3 fights then all 4 of them combined.

The whole PPV buys thing is just a small part of the story because if MMA was really more popular then why don't they get paid even half as much?

I watch MMA its cool but I don't understand all the hype.

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You really think Fedor has made even 20% as much as Flyod and Pacman have

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I'm sure his huge chunk of M-1 global which is putting shows on both network TV and PPV are really nothing. That CBS prime time fight couldn't possibly have paid well

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The whole PPV buys thing is just a small part of the story because if MMA was really more popular then why don't they get paid even half as much?

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For 99.9% of the fighter in the sport MMA pay >>>>> boxing pay.

And who makes more year in and year out. Zuffa or Top Rank? Dana White or Don king?

MMA is on cable TV just about every night of the week. Boxing is on tv when exactly? Telemundo?

I can promise you if you take that graph out, it gets worse for boxing and better for MMA.

I'm not gonna dispute that MMA is more popular now but I can show you a graph showing that more people have googled Miley Cyrus than Frank Sinatra. Doesn't say anything about whose music is better.