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re: Bo Schembechler never won a National Championship and was 5-12 in bowl games

Posted on 1/18/20 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by lsutigers1992
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 4:02 pm to
But but but MUH MICHIGAN MAN!
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:44 pm to
Making ten Rose Bowls and 1 Orange Bowl in his era was a big deal and remember the national championship was mythical. He also benefitted from a big ten in which the other 8 schools did not put the resources toward football that Michigan and Ohio State did.

When Iowa and Michigan State started to get serious about football his record tapered off. Check his record in the late 80s and early 90s. He built his record in the perverse big 2 and little 8 era.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:51 pm to
Larry Coker and Gene Chizik both won NCs. I guess by your logic they're better coaches than Bo.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:58 pm to
Longevity
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:04 pm to
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Check his record in the late 80s and early 90s.


He retired in '89.

But yes, that was the Big 2, Little 8 era.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:09 pm to
I was always puzzled about that too.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:14 pm to
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remember the national championship was mythical


Just because there was no official playoff for the thing doesn't mean it was mythical. It existed. There were two or three major organizations that all the schools wanted to be awarded that trophy from.

When you watch the broadcasts for those nationally televised games that were relevant, the broadcasters talk quite a bit about that particular game's national title implications.
Posted by SoulBrotha91
Birmingham, AL
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:16 pm to
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Bo Schembechler never won a National Championship and was 5-12 in bowl games


Piggy backs off the tradition established at Michigan under Fielding Yost with all the championships not to mention what Michigan did in the 30s and 40s, didn't hurt him that he coached a ton of future NFL stars and HOFers as well
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:18 pm to
I think it’s because Michigan fans see him as the guy who played for Woody Hayes at Miami Oh and then coached for Woody at Ohio St. They love the fact Bo left both Woody and Ohio St and came to Michigan and ultimately beat Woody. They don’t care about anything else other than he chose “them”. Makes them feel good. The ultimate reality of Michigan football is that if not for the state of Ohio, Michigan would be nothing. They got all of their prominent players and coaches from Ohio. They love that little fact to be kept secret. That doesn’t happen anymore.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 6:22 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:19 pm to
Bo schembechler rebuilt the program

It was a flaming pile of trash in the late 50s, early 60s
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:21 pm to
Michigan gets a lot of credit for being a blue blood and they have no credible hardware to show for it
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51951 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:28 pm to
Muh rose bowl game

Muh granddaddy of them all

Muh nostalgia
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:28 pm to
Why is Michigan looked at like a juggernaut historically when they’ve won only two national championships in the poll era
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71160 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:30 pm to
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Why is Michigan looked at like a juggernaut historically when they’ve won only two national championships in the poll era


It's difficult to ignore a team that has won more football games than any other program.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:37 pm to
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It's difficult to ignore a team that has won more football games than any other program.
Yea, people with severe recency bias are the ones who argue that michigan is not a traditional blue blood.

There is a lot more to being a blue blood than recent titles and trophies.

A team can be arse for 10+ years and still be a blue blood. tennessee is a blue blood. nebraska is a blue blood. boise state is not. oregon is not. utah is not.

A blue blood, imo, is defined as a program with a major presence (measured by various things such as revenue, recruiting, wins, conference titles, national titles, size of fan base etc) in college football whose reputation and history recruits itself.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9503 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:39 pm to
Tennessee is NOT a blue blood.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74213 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:41 pm to
I think Tennessee is absolutely a blue blood
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9503 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:43 pm to
Lol If you say so....if that’s the case then Michigan St and Minnesota are blue bloods because they both have more championships than Tennessee. Tennessee is NOT a blue blood.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 6:44 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:47 pm to
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They don’t care about anything else other than he chose “them”.


UW hired John Coatta over Bo in '67.

Not a big fan of Bo, but that was a poor choice.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/18/20 at 6:48 pm to
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if that’s the case then Michigan St and Minnesota are blue bloods


Plenty of Goof fans seem to think they are.
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