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re: Blown Up on the Bayou: How the Saints Ended Up in Salary-Cap Hell
Posted on 12/12/14 at 6:45 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/12/14 at 6:45 pm to Lester Earl
Right. It has to hit a tipping point sometime. Awful optimistic to say ahhh, we'll be able to keep pushing it back to Drew retires.
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 6:48 pm to floridatigah
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Right. It has to hit a tipping point sometime. Awful optimistic to say ahhh, we'll be able to keep pushing it back to Drew retires.
Or you just have to understand the impact that Drew's contract has on our salary cap. Next year, he's set to have 19% of our the cap.
And the Evans, Grubbs, and Colston contracts are hitting us right now. 2 of the top 5 highest paid guards in the league, and our interior line is shite.
If you want to look at a bad contract, it is thomas morstead
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 6:51 pm to RemouladeSawce
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Why is he held in such high regard again? He seems to still be living off of getting Brees right (well, in 2006) and Payton right.
That's exactly it. While those were 2 huge finds, he still has to do his job. Winning the super bowl has pretty much entrenched him into this organization. shite he is even involved with the Pelicans, so he's pretty much here until he wants to leave on his own, which is sad.
Why is he revered by the fans? because they think he is some cap master. He "fixes" problems (bad drafts & FA signings) that he bring upon himself. Sure Sean Payton has say in personnel decisions, but why not hire a GM that can scout talent along with him? Especially on Defense. IF you cant count beans, you hire someone to do that.
Loomis should have been fired with the old regime. He was just as responsible for the product on the field as they were. I remember hearing him curse and whine back a fan during a radio Q & A for questioning him back in the Haslett days.I remember asking, this assclown is guy in charge of our team?
Posted on 12/12/14 at 6:53 pm to Lester Earl
I would honestly like to see how we compare to other teams in regards to drafting.
Last year was pathetic. We haven't been able to draft well in early rounds, but have found top talent in later rounds.
I wonder if there's data out there comparing all teams
Last year was pathetic. We haven't been able to draft well in early rounds, but have found top talent in later rounds.
I wonder if there's data out there comparing all teams
Posted on 12/12/14 at 6:56 pm to TigerBait1127
ive seen breakdowns before, but a lot of it leans on how "plug & play" our offense has been, especially in regard to skill players. We've had some nice finds on that side of the ball, and even a few solid guys on D, but we're lacking difference makers overall.
We haven't drafted a startable LB since MArk Fields in 1995.
We haven't drafted a startable LB since MArk Fields in 1995.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 6:56 pm to TigerBait1127
Ok messed around and got it to 50 million for 2016 (not sure who else you used). 21 players left on the roster accounting for 95 million. 55 million in cap space to fill out 30 spots. Good luck.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 6:58 pm to Indfanfromcol
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, and then an additional 7 million if yall end up with a top 10 draft pick.
That isn't close to being correct.
The Rams used $5.7 million in cap space to sign 11 picks. Texans used $4.7 to sign 10. Falcons $3.6 million to sign 9.
The Lions had the 10th overall pick, and used $2.7 million to sign 8 players
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:04 pm to TigerBait1127
Jake Matthews alone was almost 3 million.
Where are you getting these numbers from?
Eric Ebron's hit was 2.3 million, kyle van noy cap hit is $927,655. I think your numbers are off
Where are you getting these numbers from?
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The Lions had the 10th overall pick, and used $2.7 million to sign 8 players
Eric Ebron's hit was 2.3 million, kyle van noy cap hit is $927,655. I think your numbers are off
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:09 pm to Indfanfromcol
LINK
LINK
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The chart gives four categories to view. The Year One Pool is the cap allocation given to the team in 2014. The Cap Space Required column shows you how much cap space a team needs to set aside for rookies assuming that the team has 51 players under contract and all bottom players count for $420,000 against the salary cap. Every team currently has at least 51 players under contract so the cap space required will represent the maximum set aside teams will need to get their rookies into training camp under the rules of the salary cap. For some teams the players being displaced will have a base salary in excess of $420,000, which reduces the space needed.\
LINK
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:14 pm to TigerBait1127
The number you are using are each individuals salary cap hit. If you kept scrolling down, you would see all 256 players cap hit.
If you click on one of the teams, you would see this.
LINK
How much they spent on all their picks.
Your link showed the Rams needed over 10 million in cap space
If you click on one of the teams, you would see this.
LINK
How much they spent on all their picks.
Your link showed the Rams needed over 10 million in cap space
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:15 pm to Indfanfromcol
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The number you are using are each individuals salary cap hit. If you kept scrolling down, you would see all 256 players cap hit.
False. Did you even read the 1st link?
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:17 pm to TigerBait1127
Late to this thread, but has TigerBait1127 said yet that the saints are only 12 plays away from being 7-6? Because he does something similar in a lot of threads.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:19 pm to TigerBait1127
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False. Did you even read the 1st link?
And then did you actually look at your second link and go to each team where over the cap showed how much they actually spent, instead of posting their predictions like the first link?
I mean, your 2nd link is great. It gave the ACTUAL numbers.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:21 pm to LSU Piston
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Late to this thread, but has TigerBait1127 said yet that the saints are only 12 plays away from being 7-6? Because he does something similar in a lot of threads.
Really? you bring that up a lot. I don't bring it up at all.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:22 pm to Indfanfromcol
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And then did you actually look at your second link and go to each team where over the cap showed how much they actually spent, instead of posting their predictions like the first link?
I understand that. Money spent =/ salary cap hit
Not every pick counts against the cap and you have to calculate the difference.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:23 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
quote:Is that like ATPB part 2?
Blown Up on the Bayou
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:25 pm to TigerBait1127
So, for example, when looking at the link and then clicking the lions, when you scroll down to 2014 total cap and it reads over 6 million....it doesn't mean that they spend over 6 million in cap...the category that it is in.
Or then when you actually go to the lions page, and add up their draft picks, and the first 2 alone come up over 3 million the cap category...that is wrong too?
LINK
Or then when you actually go to the lions page, and add up their draft picks, and the first 2 alone come up over 3 million the cap category...that is wrong too?
LINK
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:28 pm to Indfanfromcol
Yea I checked the texans page and clowney and xsf alone combine for 5 mil but he had them at 4.7 for their whole class.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:29 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but we should've traded Jimmy Graham.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:30 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Or then when you actually go to the lions page, and add up their draft picks, and the first 2 alone come up over 3 million the cap category...that is wrong too?
We're arguing 2 different things here:
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The Cap Space Required column shows you how much cap space a team needs to set aside for rookies assuming that the team has 51 players under contract and all bottom players count for $420,000 against the salary cap.
So you would take that # and subtract $420,000 from each one
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Yea I checked the texans page and clowney and xsf alone combine for 5 mil but he had them at 4.7 for their whole class.
Which is logical with the new rules
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 7:32 pm
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