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re: Biggest bust ever at quaterback
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:42 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:42 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:Jeaux you've seen all the greats. How does Toretta compare to John Huarte or Gary Beban?
He won the Heisman
quote:I only do T/F so I can guess and start a pattern
And idiots, it was a question. Pick one. Not an essay.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:43 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Toss up between Couch and Leaf.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:44 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
Not an essay.
So no Mark Sanchez?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:44 pm to goldenbadger08
Eric Crouch was an option quarterback.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:44 pm to Kafka
Biggest bust ever at running back?
Ki-Jana Carter?
Blair Thomas?
Ernie Davis?
Ki-Jana Carter?
Blair Thomas?
Ernie Davis?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:46 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:never did shite in the nfl
Ernie Davis?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:46 pm to lsutigers1992
Ernie Davis died of leukemia young.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:47 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
He won the Heisman
If that's the criteria, where's Andre Ware?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:48 pm to lsutigers1992
Good point Ware. Beban and Huarte before my time.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:54 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
Ryan Leaf
Jamarcus
From an individual player perceptive, Leaf was the bigger bust. He was hyped as much as Manning and could of easily been drafted 1st. He just didn't translate well at all to the NFL. He just flat out sucked compared to Russell who had a few moment as an average QB. I don't any QB will ever come close to Leaf's rookie season stats.
Leaf 98 1289 yds, 2 TD, 15 int (Dam son).
Its even worse because I believe the chargers were better than Russell's raiders.
From a draft pick perspective, Russell was a bigger bust. Hes only a slightly better than Leaf, but his legacy left on the raiders screwed them over for years. The alternatives in both drafts are
Players drafted in the 15 picks after Ryan Leaf:
Andre Wadsworth
Charles Woodson
Curtis Enis
Grant Winstrom
Kyle Turley
Greg Ellis
Fred Taylor
Duane Starks
Tra Thomas
Keith Brooking
Takeo Spikes
Jason Peter
Anthony Simmons
Kevin Dyson
Brian Simmons
Players drafted in the 15 picks after Jamarcus Russell:
Calvin Johnson
Joe Thomas
Gaines Adams
Levi Brown
LaRon Landry
Adrian Peterson
Jamaal Anderson
Ted Ginn Jr.
Amobi Okoye
Patrick Willis
Marshawn Lynch
Adam Carriker
Darrelle Revis
Lawrence Timmons
Justin Harrell
The raiders had a lot more draft alternatives than the chargers.
Final note, Leaf's contract actually took up more cap space than Jamarcus's contract. Russell took home more money because they expanded the salary cap.
Leaf was 15%
Russell was 11%
I'm sticking with leaf as the biggest bust.
*Some info was stolen from reddit
Posted on 12/13/15 at 6:03 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Jamarcus Russell made Jon gruden quit. Jon gruden would make the playoffs with his Tampa bay team if he just beats Jamarcus Russell in the last game of the year. Jamarcus Russell beat Jon gruden preventing gruden to get to playoffs and gruden was fired.
Who did Ryan leaf beat?
Who did Ryan leaf beat?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 6:08 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Cam Newton will never make it in the NFL.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 7:09 pm to goldenbadger08
I say Tim couch
Because as much of a frick up Russell was he had talent
Couch was a product of mummies offense and never rally had talent to begin with
Because as much of a frick up Russell was he had talent
Couch was a product of mummies offense and never rally had talent to begin with
Posted on 12/13/15 at 7:22 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
In terms of physical aize, Jamarcus has to be the biggest
Posted on 12/13/15 at 7:39 pm to vengeanceofrain
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I say Tim couch
Couch did have some injury issues.
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