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re: Bigger sleeping giant (NCAA FB)

Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:54 pm to
georgia has little in state competition for recruits.
Georgia annually has a huge number of highly rated recruits.
if they get a charismatic recruiter they will keep Clem, Bama and UTk from getting their best guys.

Texas has the name and lots of recruits, but lots of in state competition.

I presume that eventually the Tex10/12 will let NM and NM State in, so they can play Oklahoma in the B12 championship game rematch.

Georgia.

Texas is not really sleeping. Just reloading.

Posted by Spindicus Lofrus
Member since Oct 2014
814 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:57 pm to
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Until the current crop of boosters die out, they will not come anywhere close to their 2009 season again.


I don't get why people bash the boosters at Texas. The same dudes were around when we won a title in 2005. One huge booster complained publicly about the Strong hire, and he was 100% correct.

What facts do you have to support your assertion that the Texas boosters are holding back the football program?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89469 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:00 pm to
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georgia has little in state competition for recruits.


automatically invalidates any of your other points

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Texas is not really sleeping. Just reloading.


Texas has 1 national title since 1971. Considering everything they have going for them I'd say if they aren't sleeping then at a minimum they're nodding off and trying desperately to keep their eyes open
Posted by Kaizen
Member since Aug 2016
462 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:09 pm to
I dont think anyone is disregarding the fact that Ga has big time programs poaching players. But the fact that we dont have to go against an A&M, Baylor, TCU, TT, SMU, TexSt, rice, etc before we even worry about neighboring state schools is kinda nice if you think about it
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:28 pm to
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Texas is not really sleeping. Just reloading.


They have to re-think their entire process when it comes to "reloading." Much has changed in intrastate competition for recruits--some of it permanently (RE: A&M in the SEC, TCU in the big12, etc.). What worked in the past for them won't be as effective going forward.

They won't be down forever, but it'll be a much tougher row to hoe than it used to be to get to the top in this state. Additionally, I think the growth of the sport and 24/7 news/recruiting cycle is going to make stays at the top of the Texas food chain much more fluid in the decades to come.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24291 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:43 pm to
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I don't get why people bash the boosters at Texas. The same dudes were around when we won a title in 2005. One huge booster complained publicly about the Strong hire, and he was 100% correct.

What facts do you have to support your assertion that the Texas boosters are holding back the football program?
Too much booster influence can ruin a program, just ask Alabama. Even though Mack Brown kept Texas in the hunt for almost a decade, he was still a booster puppet. If the boosters would let go and let the coach have total control, Texas could do what Saban has done at Alabama easily. Those rich, arrogant s.o.b.s are too stupid to realize it though. They are too worried about if they are being recognized and getting credit for the program's success.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24291 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:46 pm to
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georgia has little in state competition for recruits.
Georgia annually has a huge number of highly rated recruits.
if they get a charismatic recruiter they will keep Clem, Bama and UTk from getting their best guys.

Texas has the name and lots of recruits, but lots of in state competition.

I presume that eventually the Tex10/12 will let NM and NM State in, so they can play Oklahoma in the B12 championship game rematch.

Georgia.

Texas is not really sleeping. Just reloading.

Georgia has no instate competition, but plenty of out of state competition. Tennessee, Clemson, Bama, Florida, Auburn, USCe, Ole Miss, FSU and a host of other southern school recruit Georgia heavily. Add in tOSU and Michigan coming along now and recruiting it harder than they did before and it makes it tough for poor little ole UGA.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48011 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:49 pm to
Uga a sleeping giant? They have 2 sec titles in a quarter century.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

georgia has little in state competition for recruits.
Georgia annually has a huge number of highly rated recruits.
if they get a charismatic recruiter they will keep Clem, Bama and UTk from getting their best guys.

Texas has the name and lots of recruits, but lots of in state competition.

I presume that eventually the Tex10/12 will let NM and NM State in, so they can play Oklahoma in the B12 championship game rematch.

Georgia.

Texas is not really sleeping. Just reloading.
Georgia has no instate competition, but plenty of out of state competition. Tennessee, Clemson, Bama, Florida, Auburn, USCe, Ole Miss, FSU and a host of other southern school recruit Georgia heavily. Add in tOSU and Michigan coming along now and recruiting it harder than they did before and it makes it tough for poor little ole UGA.



I acknowledged your point in my post. just not as long a list. the main characters though.

that's why they are a sleeping giant. big potential.

Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
9029 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

It's a 45 minute drive from Athens to Clemson


Maybe at 95 MPH.

I agree with your post, though.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36709 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:04 pm to
Every post about distance in this thread is off by a good amount or everyone drives 25+ over the speed limit at all times
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89469 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:29 pm to
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we dont have to go against an A&M, Baylor, TCU, TT, SMU, TexSt, rice, etc before we even worry about neighboring state schools


If you're trying to argue that Texas has it rough because they have to get into recruiting battles with SMU, Rice, and Texas State I'm afraid that you may be deranged.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89469 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Maybe at 95 MPH


that was definitely a mistake on my part, yeah that'd be quite the haul. For real though I don't think people realize that it's only ~70 miles between the two campuses. But they aren't in the physical borders of Georgia so I guess UGA needn't worry since they aren't "in state competition"
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43032 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:03 pm to
So you'd rather battle TT and the like than AU, Bama, Clemson, FSU, UF?

Gtfo.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41869 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:06 pm to
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if they get a charismatic recruiter they will keep Clem, Bama and UTk from getting their best guys.
Auburn arguably outrecuits all of those schools in Georgia
Posted by Kaizen
Member since Aug 2016
462 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:19 pm to
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So you'd rather battle TT and the like than AU, Bama, Clemson, FSU, UF?

Gtfo.


The frick is wrong with comprehension levels in here. I plainly stated that texas has a frick ton of instate programs to deal with, right in kids back yards, BEFORE they even fight with the Sooners,cowboys, buckeyes, LSU, and other surrounding SEC schools etc for recruits
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89469 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

I plainly stated that texas has a frick ton of instate programs to deal with, right in kids back yards, BEFORE they even fight with the Sooners,cowboys, buckeyes, LSU, and other surrounding SEC schools etc for recruits


Yeah but your dumbass also included SMU, Rice, and motherfrickin Texas State as programs they have to "deal with". Your point is the exact same as saying UGA has to deal with kennesaw, Ga Southern, and Ga State too before getting to the big boys. It was a retarded point not based in any kind of reality.
Posted by Kaizen
Member since Aug 2016
462 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:47 pm to
Good lord. my point stands. UT has just as many out of state big name schools coming for recruits as UGA does. Even with Clemson 10 minutes from athens.and a hell of alot more to deal with instate
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:15 pm to
Texas ought to contend for a national championship practically every year. It's astonishing to me that they can have losing seasons, being the biggest public university in a football crazy state. To me, the damning fact is that there are more starting quarterbacks in the NFL from Texas than any other state, but none of them went to UT. I get Drew Brees is short, but how do you miss on RGIII, Andrew Luck, Matt Stafford?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43032 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Good lord. my point stands. UT has just as many out of state big name schools coming for recruits as UGA does. Even with Clemson 10 minutes from athens.and a hell of alot more to deal with instate



Your points fricking suck. Texas has 15 million more people than Georgia and yet we have have the following states that border us to recruit:

Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, and Tennessee that house 4 of the last 5 different national champions. Teams like Bama, AU, Clemson, UF, FSU, and UT.

Texas has Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and New Mexico. LSU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, and Arkansas don't really compare.

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