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re: Better NBA Duo - Lebron and Wade or Jordan and Pippen?

Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:52 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:52 am to
quote:

I don't think LeBron has that type of defensive skill.

he does

quote:

Not on the level of BB and Scottie Pippen.

lebron is better on D than BB, but probably slightly behind pippen
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:53 am to
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I don't think LeBron has that type of defensive skill
Even if you're correct, that difference in defense is ever so slight lesssss than the difference in offensive skill.
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:53 am to
Cpt. Bengal always thinks he's right, when in fact he is a fricking idiot. Never mind him bro
Posted by LSUTil_iDie
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:56 am to
And FWIW when all is said and done I think Kevin Durant will higher up on the list than LeBron.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:56 am to
all right all we need is unknown to show up and it's fricking party.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:01 am to
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Cpt. Bengal always thinks he's right, when in fact he is a fricking idiot. Never mind him bro


running the statistical analysis now...we'll see who is the fricking idiot. Only one of us has a picture of Drake fwiw.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:02 am to
Still wondering how 1.5 apg, or 3 points, is not significant.
Posted by Louie T
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:12 am to
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fwiw, doubling the blocks is statistically significant for that reason alone

Yep; some of those differences aren't huge but it's stupid to call them insignificant.
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:12 am to
Don't forget i say words like brah and hater so that means I'm uneducated
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:17 am to
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Yep; some of those differences aren't huge but it's stupid to call them insignificant
All of em added up are certainly meaningful in the context of a basketball game.

Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:36 am to
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Still wondering how 1.5 apg, or 3 points, is not significant.


I compared their season totals using an AR(1) regressive structure and compared the differences in points, blocks, assists, steals, and rebounds...

Here are the results:
Category-----Pr>F
-----------------------
PTS----------0.5256
BLK----------0.0171
STL----------0.9106
REB----------0.0393
AST-----------0.0351


The stats in bold show significant statistical difference between the groups. Stats not in bold showed no statistical significance at alpha of 0.05.

*Kobe had significantly more blocks than Wade
*Kobe had significantly more rebounds than wade
*wade had significantly more assists than Kobe.
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 11:38 am
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:38 am to
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Kobe had significantly more blocks than Wade


quote:

I compared their season totals


Just this year?


Totals?

Didn't use ANY of the numbers I posted and you commented on?

This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 11:46 am
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:39 am to
I personally think LBJ is going to have scored the most points in the history of the NBA when he is all done...he needs about 10 years to do it scoring 27 a game. He's extremely durable and just so cyborg-like

Being #1 all time in points would have to make him a top 10 player just based on that right?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:40 am to
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Being #1 all time in points would have to make him a top 10 player just based on that right?
It's his production and efficiency that easily puts him in the top 10.

There's really only one player in our modern era who puts up comparable numbers.
Posted by Louisianimal83
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:45 am to
Damn yall are still going on with this. Its impossible to compare stats from the 80's and 90's NBA to the NBA being played today. Its a total different game in every aspect. In those days you couldnt get by with just sheer athelictism like the Griffins, Howards, Roses, Wades, and LeBrons of the world. In those days the lane was absolutely of limits. It would be like a car wreck if you go to the hole. If that wasnt the case Harold Minor aka Baby Jordan would be one of the best ever
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:47 am to
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those days you couldnt get by with just sheer athelictism like the Roses, Wades, and LeBrons of the world


Easy there.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:49 am to
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I personally think LBJ is going to have scored the most points in the history of the NBA when he is all done...he needs about 10 years to do it scoring 27 a game. He's extremely durable and just so cyborg-like
He'll be a top 10 play regardless but not because he's going to score 27 ppg for 10 years. No chance Lebron is the same player in 5 years that he is today, let alone 10.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:50 am to
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I compared their season totals


I used the total of each stat for each season in that first comparison.

Now I am providing you with the same analysis averaged per game.

Category-------PR>F
------------------------
ppg------------0.5325
apg------------0.0248
spg------------0.8882
rpg------------0.0620
bpg------------0.0107

Looking at the game averages, at the same 0.05 alpha level:

*Wade has statistically more blocks per game than Kobe
*Wade has statistically more assists per game than kobe

All other categories are not statistically different from one another.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:53 am to
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*Wade has statistically more blocks per game than Kobe
*Wade has statistically more assists per game than kobe


So in other words, exactly what us clowns were saying? Me, Slo, and Louie specifically pointed to those 2 stats.

Is there a way to somehow "add" the other 3? Is it possible that those 3 added would add up to something significant, if that makes any sense?

At any rate, I think I've successfully won this battle, no?
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 11:54 am
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:54 am to
Who is trolling who now?

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At any rate, I think I've successfully won this battle, no?


is that a boom?
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