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re: Better NBA Duo - Lebron and Wade or Jordan and Pippen?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:14 am to alfredblueforheisman
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:14 am to alfredblueforheisman
quote:That's fair enough, which is why I brought up the longevity issue.
This thread is about 3 or 4 years too early. Question isnt valid right now. In a few years though, who knows
But like I said, based on production per game and efficiency, it's Wade. I don't even know how you can pick Kobe. In fact, if you look at the numbers without names attached to them and having no clue who they are, not many if any are picking Kobe.
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:23 am to shel311
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Which individual produced more:
neither, the differences are statistically insignificant.
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Which player was more efficient:
again, too small a difference to be statistically significant.
Honestly it looks like they are the same.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:27 am to CptBengal
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too small a difference to be statistically significant
So the guy who averages more assists, rebounds, steals, blocks and is a more efficient scorer is no different than the other guy?
1.5 assists, a half a block, and .3 steaks is significant. That'll account for a couple of points per game, if not more.
Ahhh, good times.
Now let's get to the interesting part, even if we accept your statement as true, then you're completely contradicting yourself?
You gave a "lol wut" and called my statement "insane". So, I think it's a rather logical conclusion to make that you think Kobe produced mroe and more efficiently, no?
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:29 am to shel311
Bruce Bowen was a HoF caliber defender which is why I put him on my list but I guess that's just me.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:30 am to shel311
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So the guy who averages more assists, rebounds, steals, blocks and is a more efficient scorer is no different than the other guy?
do you know what STATISTICALLY significant means? No, you don't. Look it up.
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then you're completely contradicting yourself?
You gave a "lol wut" and called my statement "insane".
Yes, you said D wade was better and more efficient than Kobe.
It's insane because based on the numbers you provided, THEY ARE THE SAME.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:31 am to shel311
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So, I think it's a rather logical conclusion to make that you think Kobe produced mroe and more efficiently, no?
No clown. In a comparison there are 3 options:
A > B
A < B
A = B
Your statement is insane and wrong if the answer is one of the other two options than you picked. It was, and you are.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:32 am to CptBengal
quote:
do you know what STATISTICALLY significant means? No, you don't. Look it up.
1.5 assists, a half a block, and .3 steals is significant. That'll account for a couple of points per game, if not more.
1.5 assists alone is meaningful. Throw in a couple more and being a more efficient scorer, that's not significant? LOL.
quote:Except that they're not.
Yes, you said D wade was better and more efficient than Kobe.
It's insane because based on the numbers you provided, THEY ARE THE SAME
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:34 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:33 am to CptBengal
quote:Why are you so incapable of having a rational debate? Soooo angry.
No clown
quote:
Your statement is insane and wrong if the answer is one of the other two options than you picked. It was, and you are
Except it's not, and A was definitely the choice.
Rationalize it any way you want, you're wrong. If you don't think that difference results in significant results for a team, then I can't help you there.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:35 am to shel311
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Except it's not, and A was definitely the choice.
Rationalize it
IT IS A STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
If you don't know what the modifier to "insignificant" means (hint: the word in bold), stop posting now and save yourself further embarrassment.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:37 am to shel311
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1.5 assists, a half a block, and .3 steals is significant.
you have no idea what significant means in this context. none.
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1.5 assists alone is meaningful. Throw in a couple more and being a more efficient scorer, that's not significant?
STATISTICALLY significant. You know, how you compare things...
you are dumb as rocks.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:38 am to CptBengal
quote:
you are dumb as rocks
IF I YELL AND CALL NAMES ENOUGH, PEOPLE WILL THINK I'M RIGHT!!!!!
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:41 am to LSUTil_iDie
quote:
Bruce Bowen was a HoF caliber defender which is why I put him on my list
yes.
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but I guess that's just me.
yes.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:41 am to shel311
quote:
shel311
I'll do it for you. please point me to a database where I can download their stats, by season...for both players.
I will run a statistical analysis on their stat lines and tell you the actual results of a comparison, deal?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:44 am to LSUTil_iDie
quote:
Jason Kidd
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Kevin McHale
silly, but i can see an argument
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Ray Allen
very silly, bordering on stupid
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Bruce Bowen
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:44 am to CptBengal
I don't know where you can download stats.
I just want to know how 1.5 assists, which is 3 points btw, is not significant. That's not even factoring in the rest.
I just want to know how 1.5 assists, which is 3 points btw, is not significant. That's not even factoring in the rest.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:45 am to shel311
quote:
I don't know where you can download stats.
where did you get those numbers from?
lets start there...
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:46 am to shel311
fwiw, doubling the blocks is statistically significant for that reason alone
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:46 am to CptBengal
Basketball reference.
And again, 1.5 assists is 3 points. That isn't statistically significant? Just that alone?
And again, 1.5 assists is 3 points. That isn't statistically significant? Just that alone?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:More than the assist difference?
fwiw, doubling the blocks is statistically significant for that reason alone
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:48 am
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Like I said BB was a HoF caliber defender. I don't think LeBron has that type of defensive skill. Not on the level of BB and Scottie Pippen.
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