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re: Best QB, WR, RB, TE tandom in the NFL

Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by Ruxin
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2012
1071 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

That's fair. My scale doesn't include all time, mine is strictly based on how players rank today among each other.


I still wouldn't rank my team with any 10's

Brees: 9.5
PT: 6.5
Colston: 7.5
Graham: 8.5 (mb 9)

Total: 32
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

So since they're the best at their position they're automatic 10's? No room for improvement? I disagree




The way I look at it is they are the standard and the standard number is 10 which makes them 10s.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:40 pm to
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PT: 6.5


I agree with this because of his stats but I truly believe that if he got 25 touches a game (Run/Pass) that he would be a top 5 RB. The dude is a beast.
This post was edited on 3/13/13 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Ruxin
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2012
1071 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:41 pm to
Yeah, I wish we'd stick with one back, but their system works so I can't knock it


Well maybe not this year, but when CSP is there it works.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36489 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:48 pm to
quote:


AD and Megatron are the first two that come to mind.

Definitely not:

Lynch
Tony G
Roddy White
Jimmy (and I'm a Saints fan)
and the 55 other players considered 10's in this thread.

Would consider the top 5 QB's in the 9.5-10 range


I agree with you, but there's no way this thread was gonna go anywhere but retarded.

Anybody who thinks Roddy White or Lynch is on the same level as Megatron or All Day should have their head examined.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33935 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:52 pm to
Houston:

Schaub, Foster, Johnson, Daniels

Just throwing it out there.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33935 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Andre Johnson? With his pending age? I don't think so.


Dude was the second leading receiver in the NFL this year. Who cares how old he is? The guy is a 10 and one of the best in the game.
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
716 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

I agree with this because of his stats but I truly believe that if he got 25 touches a game (Run/Pass) that he would be a top 5 RB. The dude is a beast.


You have to be a saints homer. Top 5 with rbs in the league like Peterson, Foster, Rice, Lynch, MJD, Mccoy, Forte, Martin, Morris, Charles, McFadden, CJ2K.
Posted by LSUTil_iDie
Lawrenceville, GA
Member since Jan 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 5:16 pm to
This scale is all fricked up
This post was edited on 3/13/13 at 5:18 pm
Posted by PianoTiger
LeBron Fan
Member since Nov 2012
480 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

So since they're the best at their position they're automatic 10's? No room for improvement? I disagree


Yeah, so one would normalize the scale to 10 as the best group of elite players and go from there

Ex. Tier 1 QBs: Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Brady -> normalize to 10; tier 2 QBs would be around 9 then
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64031 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Kaepernick: 8.5
Crabtree: 9
Gore: 9.5
Davis: 10


well that's inflated as hell
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64031 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 5:43 pm to
quote:


Who would we call 10's?

Megatron
Gronk
AP
Rogers?


that's what I'd go with


I'd listen to Brady/Manning/Brees as close to 10s as well although I think Rodgers is the best right now. I'd put Ryan in the 8.5 range (simply because I think his success is partially due to having the best trio to throw to in the nfl). I think Fitzgerald is close to a 10 but wasting away. Some other WRs around a 9 are Roddy, AJ, DT, Marshall. I don't think any other running backs are better than maybe a 9. (McCoy, Rice, Richardson late in the year). Graham, Gonzo are 9s for TE, Vernon an 8 due to inconsistency.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36489 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 6:10 pm to
Nobody has 3 better weapons in the passing game than Atlanta. Nobody.

Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

You have to be a saints homer.


I love my Saints but never slight other players or teams.

quote:

Peterson, Foster, Rice


Def Better.

quote:

Lynch, MJD, Mccoy, Forte, Martin, Morris, Charles, McFadden, CJ2K


All these guys get 20-25 touches a game. I promise you would see the same output by PT if he got that many touches. He might not the best at any one thing but he catches the ball good, runs harder than anyone in the league not named AP or Lynch and he is a great blocker.

Tell me where I am wrong.
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:11 pm to
I don't think this method makes sense. I think a better idea is, rate the wrs/te/rb out of 10. Then rate the line for run blocking and pass blocking, between 0 and 3. Multiply the rb by the latter and the other two by the former. Then rate the QB of 10 and multiply everything by that.

Kinda convoluted but it makes more sense than Stafford being 9 and Megatron 10. If he's a 10 stafford is a 5 or 6, and only Peterson can realistically be a 10 out of other skill position players. (Not including QBs)
This post was edited on 3/13/13 at 10:14 pm
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:49 pm to
Idk but Stafford damn sure isn't a 9
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
8668 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:19 pm to
Honestly it would be the falcons if they had a good running back.

But they don't, so I would give it to the 49ers for next year.

Kaepernick
Gore
Boldin
Davis
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32330 posts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:50 pm to
I think Jaws had Stafford rated as the 16th best QB or something like that. He's definitely not a 9, unless we are saying that one half of the leagues QB's are 9+.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20682 posts
Posted on 3/14/13 at 5:13 am to
Flacco-9
Rice-9
Petta-7
Smith-7 boldin would have been a 9

Total-32

Kappernick-8
Davis-9
Boldin-9
Gore9

Total-35

Posted by Ruxin
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2012
1071 posts
Posted on 3/14/13 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Flacco-9
Rice-9
Petta-7
Smith-7 boldin would have been a 9


And here comes people saying Flacco is a 9. This thread has gone to hell....

And Boldin a 9? He didn't even have 1000 receiving yards last year.
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