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re: Bengals should’ve picked Penei Sewell over Chase

Posted on 9/24/25 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 5:43 pm to
Well duh! Everyone knew it then and there’s even further proof now. Or, draft chase and trade Tee Higgins. Never should have paid them both
Posted by ForTheWin81
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:33 pm to
Drafting Jamarr didn't keep them from addressing o line personnel or coaching in every move since. Both could have been accomplished
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42959 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 8:06 pm to
No, but the Falcons should have instead of Pitts
Posted by nosaj
Member since Sep 2010
2618 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 8:13 pm to
The Bengals biggest weakness are the guards, not the tackles
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 8:20 pm to
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It's a fair question. Burrow isn't going to last much longer at this rate. Sewell could've helped a lot

Bengals about to go 4-13 and secure a top 5 pick. Which they will use on a defensive player.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60670 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Drafting Jamarr didn't keep them from addressing o line personnel or coaching in every move since


They have in fact ”addressed” O line personnel since that draft, they’ve just missed.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1158 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 6:07 am to
Could have had Sewell and St.Brown or Collins but went with Chase and some dude named Jackson Carman instead.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:05 am to
Chase is better than all of those players and brings more money in on his name alone in advertising, jersey sales etc
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:12 am to
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They have in fact ”addressed” O line personnel since that draft, they’ve just missed.

The key variable the people on the wrong side of the argument keep missing.

The difference is that you CAN address OL and acquire elite OL outside of the draft, relatively easily.

It's EXTREMELY hard to do this with elite WRs.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70560 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:38 am to
This really isn’t debatable in retrospect for them. You take the elite big guy over the skill player. Especially when you supposedly have an elite qb who is fragile.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 7:41 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60670 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:33 am to
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St.Brown or Collins


It’s a lot easier to draft 5 years later when you get to see how the players turned out
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1158 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:21 am to
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It’s a lot easier to draft 5 years later when you get to see how the players turned out


Sure, but they knew at the time that they needed an OT and they had all options available to select and went with a WR instead. Doesn’t matter how elite your WR is if your Qb can’t get the ball to him.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1158 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:26 am to
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It's EXTREMELY hard to do this with elite WRs.


Off the top of my head: DK Metcalf, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, and Stefon Diggs have all been brought in via trade just in the last few seasons. Going back further, Owens and Moss were brought in via trade.

When was the last time an elite OL was moved via trade? Trent Williams?

Recent history shows that acquiring an elite wr via trade is much easier than pretty much every other position.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60670 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 10:39 am to
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Doesn’t matter how elite your WR is if your Qb can’t get the ball to him.


So we’re back to this cliche

I already discussed this above but, if he literally can’t get the ball to the WR why did said WR lead the league in Rec Yards and TDs last year? Why was the QB able to throw for 4900 and 43 TDs, don’t shift the goalpost like you always do and start talking about how they didn’t make the playoffs of win the SB because that’s a separate discussion and there is no way simply drafting Sewell instead of Chase guarantees the Bengals titles.

The OL is not great but clearly the offense is elite when Burrow is in there (and him being injured because of the OL is also a separate question) it was their defense last year that kept them out of the playoffs not the fact they did not draft Sewell.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60670 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:16 am to
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This really isn’t debatable in retrospect for them. You take the elite big guy over the skill player. Especially when you supposedly have an elite qb who is fragile


The beauty of hindsight is you get to create whatever narrative you want. Every move or draft pick not made becomes a success. Draft Sewell and suddenly Burrow never gets sacked or hurt and the team wins the SB
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70560 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:23 am to
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The beauty of hindsight is you get to create whatever narrative you want. Every move or draft pick not made becomes a success. Draft Sewell and suddenly Burrow never gets sacked or hurt and the team wins the SB


Well no shite. But the non stop drumbeat for Burrow has been he needs protection from the moment he entered the league. Maybe that’s just this board and the legions of whining fans. But it’s been loud and it’s been constant. Sewell was considered Elite+ when he came out and you could've locked up Burrow’s blindside for the majority of his career.

But they went with the shiny toy.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 11:25 am
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1158 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:26 am to
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already discussed this above but, if he literally can’t get the ball to the WR why did said WR lead the league in Rec Yards and TDs last year


Is he going to get the ball to him this year?

Point is, doesn’t matter what playmakers you have at RB/WR/TE, if your OL can’t protect your QB and open lanes for your RBs and enable you to control the game, you’re not going to have much success in this league unless you have an absurd defense - which the Bengals don’t have because they picked paying/drafting a vanity position (WR) over necessary positions (OL and Defense).
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
7571 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:27 am to
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Doesn’t matter how elite your WR is if your Qb can’t get the ball to him.

Ummmm you make valid points but don’t get crazy lol. Burrow has gotten the ball to Chase just fine since they’ve been together.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1158 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:31 am to
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The beauty of hindsight is you get to create whatever narrative you want. Every move or draft pick not made becomes a success. Draft Sewell and suddenly Burrow never gets sacked or hurt and the team wins the SB


It’s really not even hindsight anymore. It was said in the moment and has been reiterated multiple times over the years. Hell moving beyond Burrow and the Bengals you can look at what the Dolphins have put around Tua, look at what the Colts dealt with with Luck, David Carr never got a fair shot with the Texans because the OL was arse. Doesn’t matter how great your QB is, if the line is arse, you aren’t going to find consistent success in the NFL.

These GMs that are handing out these mega contracts to WRs are starting to learn their lesson. Some will still probably make the same mistakes and wind up out of a job but the smart ones won’t.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60670 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 11:56 am to
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Is he going to get the ball to him this year?



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