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re: Bears repeating every year. Private schools should not be
Posted on 12/14/09 at 2:09 pm to TigerFanatic1
Posted on 12/14/09 at 2:09 pm to TigerFanatic1
well if they want to "juggle" the numbers at SP it is real real easy.... all they have to do is move the enrollment line down a mile or less.
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 2:30 pm to choupiquesushi
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well if they want to "juggle" the numbers at SP it is real real easy.... all they have to do is move the enrollment line down a mile or less.
I am not saying that they are "juggling" numbers, as I stated I can't find official enrollment numbers for them and third party numbers would put them in 2A.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 2:51 pm to TigerFanatic1
I know 3rd party numbers put them in 2a.... they do too....they do not want to be in 2a as long as curtis and eca are in 2a...
Posted on 12/14/09 at 2:54 pm to choupiquesushi
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they do not want to be in 2a as long as curtis and eca are in 2a
:kige:
Posted on 12/14/09 at 2:59 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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You started this thread earlier this year, after Aquinas blew out Upper Arlington (who by the way, finished 5-5 and finished as the 10th best Division I team in Columbus, missing the playoffs in the process). FWIW, at least in Ohio, the gap really isn't that big (at least it's not in D-I, the highest division. The privates do typically fare very well in the lower divisions, though). Maybe it's a big advantage in LA, though.
In the last 2 years 3 Private Schools have won state championships. 7 Public schools have won.
There are about 300 schools that compete in football in Louisiana I'm sure around 90 of them are private. So I'd say that the the numbers are where they should be.
People complain that its not fair that the same teams win titles year after year. But only some of those teams are public. Haynesville has like 15 titles. West Monroe has like 7 titles. Lutcher has like 7 titles. Neville has probably 5 or 6.
John Curtis has 23.
Evangel has like 12 or 13.
Outside of these two how many private schools actually *dominate every year*
You could argue that Notre Dame has but they only have 4 title in school history and only 2 since 1976.
The people that argue for a public/private split are not arguing because private schools have some huge advantage. They are arguing because their schools are not winning and they want to blame someone. If you took out all the Private schools tomorrow. West Monroe, Lutcher, Neville, Destrehan, Hahnville, Acadiana, South Plaquemines, Haynesville, Oak Grove, West St. John etc. etc. would continue to dominate year in and year out. The only class that would see a huge change is 2A because of Curtis and ECA.
This post was edited on 12/14/09 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 12/14/09 at 3:06 pm to SPEEDY
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what exactly are private schools repeating?
2008 Champions:
5A - Destrehan
4A - Belle Chase
3A - Lutcher
2A - John Curtis
1A - South Plaquemines
2007 Champions:
5A - Destrehan
4A - Bastrop
3A - Parkview
2A - John Curtis
1A - South Plaquemines
So in the last 2 years, a public school has won the championship 70% of the time
and the problem is what again?
*public school fan response* Yea but my team that went 6 - 4 lost to a private school in the first round of the playoffs. If they weren't there, who knows we could have got on a roll and went all the way this year.
Posted on 12/14/09 at 6:07 pm to supatigah
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Bears repeating every year. Private schools should not be
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They can't compete in 5A in the other sports."
this has been misrepresented for years
what JT Curtis was talking about was his GIRL'S Sports. JCC has more than enough athletes and quality coaching to compete in any boy's sport they want to but it is the girl's sports that would suffer with a 2A enrollment competing at the 5A level.
BS since his girls sports have won state championships too... they would be very competitive if they were in the jefferson parish district like they could have been
Posted on 12/14/09 at 6:11 pm to LSUtigerfan1025
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Outside of these two how many private schools actually *dominate every year*
none
notice every time this comes up nobody complains about the catholic league... if curtis and evangel had good reputations for their academics no one would care that they're winning every title in football...
Posted on 12/14/09 at 6:38 pm to LSUtigerfan1025
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Neville has probably 5 or 6.
9 now
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West Monroe, Lutcher, Neville, Destrehan, Hahnville, Acadiana, South Plaquemines, Haynesville, Oak Grove, West St. John etc. etc. would continue to dominate year in and year out.
West Monroe is 7-5 in the Dome. 4 of their losses came to Evangel. 1 came to a public school.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 8:58 am to LSUtigerfan1025
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Haynesville has like 15 titles.
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West Monroe has like 7 titles.
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Lutcher has like 7 titles.
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Evangel has like 12 or 13.
You sure do use the word, like, a lot.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 9:07 am to Proejo
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Bears repeating every year. Private schools should not be
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Haynesville has like 15 titles.
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West Monroe has like 7 titles.
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Lutcher has like 7 titles.
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Evangel has like 12 or 13.
You sure do use the word, like, a lot.
would u rather me mix it up and use about and around more often.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 9:28 am to chalmetteowl
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BS since his girls sports have won state championships too... they would be very competitive if they were in the jefferson parish district like they could have been
you missed the point, winning a softball title in 4A is great and all BUT the problem for JCC in 5A would be getting girls to come to JCC at all. Why would they want to go to JCC with their average academics and get their beat downs in 5A? What would be the point? They would go elsewhere and that would hurt the overall enrollment of the school.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 9:30 am to LSUtigerfan1025
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would u rather me mix it up and use about and around more often.
Sorry. I couldn't help myself. It's a pet peeve for me. I have a group of engineers and estimators who send me their specifications that have to be written into technical documents. I edit their documents and invariably I have to filter out "like" because we work in facts, not assumptions or estimations or ambiguity.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 9:48 am to chalmetteowl
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notice every time this comes up nobody complains about the catholic league... if curtis and evangel had good reputations for their academics no one would care that they're winning every title in football...
cuz the catholic league has one state title in football in the past 30 seasons...
when st. aug had their run in the late 70s.... and curtis was just getting rolling it was kicked around then too...
Posted on 12/15/09 at 10:01 am to choupiquesushi
If you didn't have the Universtiy of Evangel and the University of John Curtis this site would not happen. You can plainly see that public schools win when these 2 schools are not in their Classifications. They are not playing under the same rules in football.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 10:02 am to Kong
yet public schools win in the other classes that have private schools...
Posted on 12/15/09 at 11:08 am to Sophandros
sophandrus.. you know the drill if a school is going to sellout academics for athletic success this will attract some kids and parents...
in reality only two schools are doing this....
two school muck up the entire system.
in reality only two schools are doing this....
two school muck up the entire system.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 11:56 am to choupiquesushi
I'm not against private schools, I went to one but these 2 are just football factories with no fan base and will do what ever to get the best of the best,period. We have beaten plenty private schools in the playoffs and vice versa but the playing fields weren't as one sided as these two.
Posted on 12/15/09 at 12:58 pm to supatigah
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Why would they want to go to JCC with their average academics and get their beat downs in 5A? What would be the point? They would go elsewhere and that would hurt the overall enrollment of the school.
when curtis had their great pitchers, if anything they would have won 5A too... it's apparent you've never seen any girls sports at the LHSAA level. there's not THAT much difference.
outside of chalmette, i'd say their current 2A district makes them more money than the 5A jefferson parish district would. those schools don't have fans and newman, lusher, st. charles catholic, fisher, etc. do
Posted on 12/16/09 at 10:42 am to choupiquesushi
speaking of this.... remember a few years back when a public school had a couple of players living with a fairly wealthy person near their school in fact one player came from about 50 miles away......
don't know of a private school that has gotten away with that. and yes they won state that year.
don't know of a private school that has gotten away with that. and yes they won state that year.
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