Baseball Hall of Fame ballot out today....felt dirty looking at it..who gets in?

I'd like to see Biggio get in for sure and I wouldn't mind seeing Piazza get the nod either.

As a Hall watcher, this is probably the most important ballot in BBWAA history. I'm genuinely curious how they are going to treat Clemens and Bonds, who are no question about it, inner circle Hall of Famers from a performance standpoint. Any vote they do not get is a voter who literally will not vote for any "steroid" player. It is an automatic disqualification for those voters. Because there is simply no way to deny them entry based on performance.

I think Bonds and Clemens will get between 40-50% of the vote.

I also feel that our recent run of borderline candidates getting in is the old guard's last stand. The BBWAA skews older, and they hate the new sabermetrically inclined writers. I think the statistical cases for Raines and Blyleven actually hurt their candidacies, and the poor statistical case actually helped Perez and Dwason get in, and will help Morris get in.

I think Morris and Piazza get in. Maybe Biggio. But there is no way a "steroid candidate" gets in until Bonds does. He's the guy. You cannot let in a guy with a steroid taint and keep out Bonds and have any hope of legitimacy.

This is the most loaded ballot of my lifetime. Two of the greatest players who ever lived, the greatest hitting catcher in history, the second or third best leadoff hitter ever, a top 10 1st baseman, and one of the best "rate" players ever in Biggio.

Oh, and I have a better chance of getting elected to Cooperstown than Sosa.

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I am not an expert at this by any means, but I could potentially see Piazza as being the only one who makes the cut this time.

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This guy says what's up

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was he ever actually tied to steroid use?

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No

Gimme Bagwell, Biggio, and Piazza

and the first of the anti-steroid crowd cracks...

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This will be my third year voting. In my first year, I mustered up a mighty wave of self righteousness and decided that no player I suspected of using PEDs would get my vote. I'll show them.

Last year I moved my line and decided that unless there was some kind of tangible connection to PEDs, I would consider voting for a player. I changed because of Jeff Bagwell, a guy who sure looked the part of a drug user but was never linked to it. It seemed unfair to exclude him based only on suspicion.

Now I've decided to erase the line completely.

Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, and the rest of the scoundrels will get my vote. I'll look at the players based on their statistical merit, how they compared to other players of their era and to other players in the Hall of Fame. I won't sit at my desk and do Google searches to decide who is clean and who was cheating.

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I didn't think he was, but I thought that was who Baloo was referring to with the "no way a steroid candidate gets in before bonds" quote.

I always enjoyed watching Biggio play, dude just seemed to be at 110% all the time. Hated seeing the Braves play against him

Probably won't be a poular opinion, but I say Clemens and Bonds should go in.

They were HOF's, likely first ballot, before the steriod use.

With the steriod use they arguably are the best hitter and pitcher to ever play the game.

Not to mention the majority of their competition was juicing as well.

Put them in, first ballot, says me.

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Probably won't be a poular opinion, but I say Clemens and Bonds should go in.

They were HOF's, likely first ballot, before the steriod use.

With the steriod use they arguably are the best hitter and pitcher to ever play the game.

Not to mention the majority of their competition was juicing as well.

Put them in, first ballot, says me.

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+1

What's the big issue with Rock Raines? also, when will Dale Murphy get another shot at it?