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re: ball-gate. NFL says balls were ok in 2nd half. NE 28 Indy 0. so who cares?

Posted on 1/24/15 at 8:54 am to
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
51206 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 8:54 am to
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Baseball Team A is up 9-0 in the top not the ninth. A batter for team A, who is 0-4 in the game, grounds out to go 0-5, but cracks his bat and reveals it's corked. Meh, who cares. Team would have won even if his bat wasn't corked, why are we wasting any time talking about this?!


What is funny to me is watching all of the reactions to this.

I agree with your point above.

I just find it funny when LSU fans, or fans of other schools, point out blatant favoritism given to certain SEC teams in certain sports, like say, oh, 5-10 blatant bad calls a game, crooked replays, etc, that "you should just get over it". Or, my favorite, "quit being a pussy".

Cheating is cheating, no matter how you look at it.

It is obvious that the Patriots cheated....AGAIN. That is bad for the sport.

Seattle cheats a lot too in their own way. For example, they clearly get away with holding/PI on nearly ever pass play and get called maybe twice a game. They talk shite, hit teams late, and not to mention, grab their dicks when scoring, all of which get every other NFL team penalized. However, it doesn't happen to Seattle with the same frequency.

Perhaps next Sunday should be called the "Cheat Bowl".
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
18626 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:29 am to
I think a fine or loss of draft pick is very plausible. It doesn't matter if no one did it intentionally, or if anyone even knew they were deflated, they were and that's against the rules. Everyone knows air pressure is lost in cold weather. I had to air up my tires a few PSI twice this year because of cold weather and I live in south Louisiana so im sure that equipment managers in Boston are more familiar with it than I am.

If ignorance is not an excuse in Bountygate, I expect it can't be used in any case in the NFL. The precedent has been set and I hope all of the NFL owners demand equality.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 10:28 am to
How were balls under inflated for the first half, but then properly inflated for the second half? The implication is that the NFL allows manipulation of inflation levels during the course of games.

If you played poker with a marked deck, and you got dealt a royal flush so that you did not need the advantage of the marked cards, what do you think should be the appropriate recourse for the other players? Any punishment of the card marker would likely involve prevention from future competition. Unfortunately, the NFL is a cooperative enterprise instead of a competition among separate businesses. Any penalty to the Patriots that harms the cooperative business will not be tolerated.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 10:31 am to
The Patriots aren't good enough to win without cheating, or else they would win without cheating.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67428 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:01 pm to
Mad dog Russo said yesterday that Steve Belichick was listed as an equipment manager for the pats.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30377 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 1:27 pm to
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If ignorance is not an excuse in Bountygate, I expect it can't be used in any case in the NFL. The precedent has been set


This is why "deflate gate" is a big issue. Has nothing to do with deflated balls, but what it represents...a harbored culture of an organization that thinks they are above league rules.

They have cheated before, they are cheating now and they will cheat again.

Has nothing to do with it being Brady, the pats or whatever else people want to say.

An NFL team has now been caught blatantly cheating several times and the NFL is slapping them on the wrist every time.

Monetary fines for NFL teams are pointless. Punishment should hurt. Take picks and suspend coaches. Was good enough for the Saints in the most recent "scandal", so it's good enough for any other team/organization.
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 1:34 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
51206 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:16 pm to
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Was good enough for the Saints in the most recent "scandal", so it's good enough for any other team/organizatio


Yeah, but one team is in a large media market with a major network close by...

The other is in New Orleans.

Sorry Saints fans.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 7:03 pm to
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How were balls under inflated for the first half, but then properly inflated for the second half?
Because they were caught and then re-inflated.
Posted by Brightside Bengal
New Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3904 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 7:13 pm to
Have any of the pats other opponents (other than the colts) sensed that the balls were underinflated? Does that mean we pretty much know that the balls were inflated to specifications for those games or that all the other teams just didn't notice?
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 8:02 pm to
Absence of a complaint does not mean that the balls were properly inflated.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 8:05 pm to
lol @ Saints fans comparing this to intentionally trying to hurt players.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 8:09 pm to
Cool.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 8:21 pm to
Cool enough for to get you to reply.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
72572 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 8:24 pm to
Yeah, that's not the point.
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