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re: ATL Thread | 2023 Spring Training discussion + hot takes
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:20 pm to Broski
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:20 pm to Broski
I think Olson is going to have a monstrous season. He's another year away from all of the Freeman bullshite and he should be a lot more comfortable in year two. I would not be shocked if he has a top 3 MVP caliber season.
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:31 pm to VADawg
I agree with you.
And we could get similar production from Acuna and Riley.
And we could get similar production from Acuna and Riley.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:35 pm to wheelz007
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agree with you. And we could get similar production from Acuna and Riley.
Yeah I mean, all three will probably be in the top 4 of NL MVP vote getters
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:04 pm to Elleshoe
And Ozzie will be 4th 
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:32 pm to Broski
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we're going to need a better ownership group
Liberty is more than adequate.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:33 pm to Elleshoe
Melt.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:44 pm to Broski
So what would it take to re-sign Fried?
6 years and $160 mill?
2024 - $22.5 mill
2025 - $27.5 mill
2026 - $27.5 mill
2027 - $27.5 mill
2028 - $27.5 mill
2029 - $27.5 mill
I doubt he would take that. Probably wants more. But, if we go that high and don't get him, how much higher should we go?
And then, go take a look at our salaries on Spotrac.com for 2025 and beyond. Would we be able to keep everyone AND add pieces as needed?
It's a tough spot for us to be in..... he's one of the Top what, 10 starting pitchers in the game? Top 15?
6 years and $160 mill?
2024 - $22.5 mill
2025 - $27.5 mill
2026 - $27.5 mill
2027 - $27.5 mill
2028 - $27.5 mill
2029 - $27.5 mill
I doubt he would take that. Probably wants more. But, if we go that high and don't get him, how much higher should we go?
And then, go take a look at our salaries on Spotrac.com for 2025 and beyond. Would we be able to keep everyone AND add pieces as needed?
It's a tough spot for us to be in..... he's one of the Top what, 10 starting pitchers in the game? Top 15?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:45 pm to wheelz007
No surprise, but Soroka was assigned to AAA today.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:46 pm to Broski
The Braves have the 7th highest payroll in MLB, yet you say this:
Sound logic.
I think you truly aren't happy unless you're always unhappy/bitching about something.
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Liberty Media really fricks us.
Sound logic.
I think you truly aren't happy unless you're always unhappy/bitching about something.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:46 pm to wheelz007
The only thing that can help AA make this decision is if Wright keeps pitching the way he has. If Soroka returns to form, Ian Anderson (I know I know I'm just saying)....
The Freddie situation - once we got Olson, I was ok.
The Dansby loss - I know we'll feel it.
But which one is worse - can we financially afford to keep Fried and the roster together long term.... vs Can the team (level of play and WS chances) afford to let Fried walk in free agency???
Tough spot for AA to be in.
The Freddie situation - once we got Olson, I was ok.
The Dansby loss - I know we'll feel it.
But which one is worse - can we financially afford to keep Fried and the roster together long term.... vs Can the team (level of play and WS chances) afford to let Fried walk in free agency???
Tough spot for AA to be in.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:47 pm to auzach91
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First Bally game with new announcer. I’m a fan.
Gaudin is a smooth operator. Big fan of his work, even if it was at GA.Tech.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:47 pm to wheelz007
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It's a tough spot for us to be in..... he's one of the Top what, 10 starting pitchers in the game? Top 15?
He's a top 3 or 4 pitcher in the NL at the very least. I'd say top 10 more likely than top 15, but it's all subjective.
Hell, you could even make the argument though that he's top 4 in his own division behind Verlander, Nola and Scherzer.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:51 pm to Broski
No doubt.
What do you think it will cost to keep him?
What do you think it will cost to keep him?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:54 pm to wheelz007
I really have no idea, but based on trends, I think a LHP still in his prime (age 31) will command a roughly $30m+ AAV heading into the 2025 season.
I think whoever does get them won't regret paying that either.
I think whoever does get them won't regret paying that either.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:55 pm to VADawg
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Hoskins looks to have suffered a significant knee injury in Phillies ST.
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That doesn't look good
Just watched the video. That definitely looks like an ACL.
No bueno.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 4:58 pm to Broski
SO, a 6 year deal for a 31 year old pitcher....
That's 2-3 really good years with the last 2-3 years on the deal, most likely, being injury prone or not up to par and not worth the $30 mill
That's what we've seen historically.
Keeping him is risky.
SO is losing him. He gives you a chance to win any game he starts.
That's 2-3 really good years with the last 2-3 years on the deal, most likely, being injury prone or not up to par and not worth the $30 mill
That's what we've seen historically.
Keeping him is risky.
SO is losing him. He gives you a chance to win any game he starts.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 5:01 pm to wheelz007
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most likely, being injury prone or not up to par and not worth the $30 mill
I don't think you can assume injuries when you sign someone. And, like AA said this offseason, Fried has such an easy delivery that I don't think his pitching is going to drop-off that much on the backend of a 6 year deal (age 35, 36 and 37) seasons.
Fact of the matter is, his value inflates because he gives you something from the left side and throws a high spinrate.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:10 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Sound logic.
I think you truly aren't happy unless you're always unhappy/bitching about something.
Ok champ.
Your wife says hi.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:00 pm to Broski
We aren’t resigning Fried. We got our use out of him. Let someone else pay for the back end of his career.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:07 pm to RunningJacket
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We aren’t resigning Fried. We got our use out of him. Let someone else pay for the back end of his career.
You literally said yesterday pitching is what matters.
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