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Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19942 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:00 am to
The fly will never ever happen...it would not get past city planning commission...its a bottle neck that would create huge traffic problems. Some of that land may be used to update the zoo one day.

If Tulane wants a stadium to themselves they would have to use that land they own at Broadway and River Road...and thats not going to happen either.
Posted by Sidis
'08 Droppie Nominee: 'The Visitor'
Member since Jun 2008
1444 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:01 am to
I believe the academics should HELP recruiting.

That said, the administration has not always been keen about opening the flood gates to certain 'students'.

Academics - as one of several factors to consider when discussing Tulane's football recruiting - are certainly relevant.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:02 am to
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If Tulane wants a stadium to themselves they would have to use that land they own at Broadway and River Road...and thats not going to happen either.


they are currently renovating that area for married housing and a convention center and even that was difficult for them to get by the planning commission. they had to downsize the intended renovations
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19942 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:05 am to
If you left off categories such as number of minorties, number of foreign students, number of women's studies courses, number of african american studies courses and numerous other useless criteria that are used to assemble those lists, Tulane does not fall in the top 50.

If you left off that criteria, a school like Washington and Lee or Williams would be top 10...Tulane's priorities changed...they are no longer the school they once were. Academics are not an excuse...the powers that be have shunned football and caused its demise.

Posted by 504Tigah
N.O./B.R.
Member since Jul 2008
94 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:06 am to
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It would be like Tulane and the Saints sharing the dome.


I'm not sure if you have ever been in Tad Gormely's stadium, but by week 4 the only green grass left on the field is at the sidelines. The dome is played on sprint turf which means no wear and tear. Having another game tacked on to the weekend lineup would not work out. Not to mention, the one game that Tulane played at Gormely when I was in H.S., no team was allowed to play on the field the night before, because it would ruin the painted center emlem and the endzones before Tulane even took the field.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19942 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:07 am to
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they had to downsize the intended renovations


I know...I had to study those documents...I felt for Tulane, but there was no way around it.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:07 am to
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If you left off categories such as number of minorties, number of foreign students, number of women's studies courses, number of african american studies courses and numerous other useless criteria that are used to assemble those lists, Tulane does not fall in the top 50.


you obviously don't understand the ranking methodology because none of those factors are even considered. nice job of making a baseless assumption seem factual though
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4690 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:12 am to
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I'm not sure if you have ever been in Tad Gormely's stadium, but by week 4 the only green grass left on the field is at the sidelines. The dome is played on sprint turf which means no wear and tear. Having another game tacked on to the weekend lineup would not work out. Not to mention, the one game that Tulane played at Gormely when I was in H.S., no team was allowed to play on the field the night before, because it would ruin the painted center emlem and the endzones before Tulane even took the field


I have only been to Gormley once and that was when the Crescent City Classic finished there. That being said, new turf would have to be part of the renovation to get the stadium ready. Even people who think Gormley would be a great fit acknowledge that the renovations required to bring the stadium up to college standards would be extensive.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19942 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:13 am to
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you obviously don't understand the ranking methodology because none of those factors are even considered. nice job of making a baseless assumption seem factual though


That is exactly what they use...there was a NY Times article about how Yale changed a lot of their courses and admissions to stay in the top 5.

Believe what you want, but many schools are choosing to be left off of those "rankings" because of this.
Posted by Sidis
'08 Droppie Nominee: 'The Visitor'
Member since Jun 2008
1444 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:13 am to
No kidding - what's he talking about?

Such a contrived analysis could be negatively applied to almost any school.



Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:16 am to
quote:

That is exactly what they use...there was a NY Times article about how Yale changed a lot of their courses and admissions to stay in the top 5.

Believe what you want, but many schools are choosing to be left off of those "rankings" because of this.



i don't know what lists you're talking about, but US News, which is by far the most popular one, doesn't include anything that you mentioned in their ranking methodology. they separate liberal arts colleges and universities because they're different types of institutions with different goals
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19942 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:18 am to
Yes, that is the contrived analysis they used to rank those schools...thus...yes...it is applied to any...and all schools on the list.

ETA: Regardless..being number 50 on a list of academics is not an excuse for a horrible football program.
This post was edited on 8/6/08 at 11:23 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36719 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:26 am to
I have always thought (even prior to Katrina devastating Tulane) that Tulane should consider whether they really want to have a 1a football program

It's a major committment of resources for any school... and I don't think Tulane has the money to spare

Only a very few athletic programs really make money on football when you really run the numbers and while LSU is lucky enough to be one of those.... Tulane IMO is a long ways away from that status
Posted by Sidis
'08 Droppie Nominee: 'The Visitor'
Member since Jun 2008
1444 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:32 am to
Now, c'mon.

You know it's only ranked #50 in '08, but historically it's been ranked higher.


Also:
I'm curious, but why (and I'm assuming you are) is an attorney have so much free time on a Wed.?

An associate at a large firm wouldn't have the time, neither would a busy solo/small firm atty. An active partner at a firm also wouldn't have the time to post on a discussion board, especially about Tulane football recruiting.

Strange.

Posted by Sidis
'08 Droppie Nominee: 'The Visitor'
Member since Jun 2008
1444 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 11:34 am to
Tulane's endowment is over $1 billion (check out other schools - you'd be surprised how small most endowments are).

The athletic fund is another story...
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19942 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 3:25 pm to
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An associate at a large firm wouldn't have the time, neither would a busy solo/small firm atty. An active partner at a firm also wouldn't have the time to post on a discussion board, especially about Tulane football recruiting.


I have written 2 memos today and 1 MSJ...I am also scheduled to sit in a doctor's depo at 5pm (which I am trying to pass off so I can go to a happy hour).

I got in the office at 7am to get all of that done. I will bill what I need to by 4pm...is that good enough for you, buddy.

If you understood billing incriments, you wouldn't need to question why someone would have free time on a Wednesday.

I suggest you stick to what you know about...which seems to be Tulane.

IMO and the opinion of many, Tulane's academic reputation is inflated...and many smaller institutions are much better academically.

If you notice throughout this thread, I have defended Tulane football and its rightful place in the city of New Orleans.

I had many factors go into deciding against going to Tulane...the low quality of people was one of them. I met much less pretentious people at Rhodes, Sewanee, Washingotn and Lee, and Davidson.

You would seem to represent well many people's opinions (and my own) who think lowly of the quality of person Tulane produces recently.
Posted by wilder
Member since Feb 2008
4038 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 5:53 pm to
If Tulane got out of CUSA it would help them. Hell, now the Sun Belt has three tie ins. They might be good for the Big Least.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 8/6/08 at 6:25 pm to
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IMO and the opinion of many, Tulane's academic reputation is inflated...and many smaller institutions are much better academically.


that is a ridiculous statement. how do you know anything about the academic quality of a university that you never attended? it's obvious that you dislike a portion of the student body and that is causing you to make broad generalizations about the entire school. you also seem a little bitter that LACs don't have better name recognition. seriously, i've liked your posts in the past but you've jumped into this thread and started making erroneous statements and bashing tulane for no discernible reason.
Posted by Sidis
'08 Droppie Nominee: 'The Visitor'
Member since Jun 2008
1444 posts
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:05 am to
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I had many factors go into deciding against going to Tulane...the low quality of people was one of them.


quote:

You would seem to represent well many people's opinions (and my own) who think lowly of the quality of person Tulane produces recently.


I better take cover.

By the way - I was just curious. How you spend each 6 minute increment is your business.





Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48435 posts
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:09 am to
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