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re: Are Stephen Curry's on/off court numbers inflated?
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:05 pm to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:05 pm to PrimeTime Money
Assuming you're correct, what's your point? I get the feeling that there's a James Harden for MVP point lurking just below the surface.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 2:08 pm
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:07 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:It is a hypothesis I have. That's why I asked it as a question.
It's an extremely weak point that can be neither supported nor refuted because it is rooted purely in conjecture.
I never said it was a fact.
You automatically shooting it down without even thinking about it is what is silly.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:08 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:But it does theoretically because if his teammates performed better, considering the opponents then they would have a higher RPM, and likely lower his RPM when sharing the court.
But that stat doesn't take into account the difference made when that player sits.
Regardless it tells us that when he is on the court, he contributes +9.1 points per 100 possessions. What else matters?
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:09 pm to boom roasted
quote:Why do you assume I have a greater point?
Assuming you're correct, what's your point?
I've seen Curry's on/off numbers referenced in articles many times, and I had a theory as to why it may be flawed.
That's it.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:12 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:I thought "stats have flaws" was just the teaser to the real point. Turns out "stats have flaws" was the real point. My apologies.
Why do you assume I have a greater point?
Carry on.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:12 pm to PrimeTime Money
I'm glad you started this thread. Now, hopefully it will catch on so the MVP trophy can be in LeBron's hands where it belongs.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:13 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:So his on/off shows superior performance, but you question the validity of that statistic. Then when I show a statistic that shows his contribution controlling for the other 9 players on the court--which can make up for some of your issues with the on/off statistic--you question that statistic too.
I've seen Curry's on/off numbers referenced in articles many times, and I had a theory as to why it may be flawed.
That's it.
The data overwhelmingly shows Curry having the most positive impact on point differential, no matter how you conceptualize it.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:23 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:its a theory. that curry's stats are inflated due to being on a really talented team. hes not first, wont be the last. just talking out loud...
It's an extremely weak point that can be neither supported nor refuted because it is rooted purely in conjecture.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:27 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
quote:There are data that show that, even when controlling for the superiority of his team, that he still had the most positive impact.
its a theory. that curry's stats are inflated due to being on a really talented team. hes not first, wont be the last. just talking out loud...
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:45 pm to PrimeTime Money
He is the MVP
Posted on 4/20/15 at 2:55 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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its a theory. that curry's stats are inflated due to being on a really talented team. hes not first, wont be the last. just talking out loud...
You keep saying this which ignores everything about this discussion. That super talented team isn't very good when Curry isn't on the floor. Game 1 was a perfect example of this.
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