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re: Are Lebron and Wade the Top 2 Players in the NBA?
Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:12 pm to bomber77
Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:12 pm to bomber77
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Anyone who thinks that the 80's Lakers, 80's Celtics, Bad Boy Pistons, Jordans Bulls, Akeems Rockets etc couldnt win the title this year because the new game is so much advanced is nuts imo.
Its Hakeem. And ur naming some of the top teams of all time. Im talking about the league average. Thats a huge difference. You cant have 4 all-stars on the same team nowadays. There wasnt any parity back then. There were only 20 teams in the nba during some of those years, do i get to take the bottom 10 nba team's players and add some to this years heat?
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:13 pm to sgallo3
it was Akeem long before Hakeem.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:18 pm to sgallo3
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You cant have 4 all-stars on the same team nowadays.
Rondo
Pierce
Allen
Garnett
And basically these guys are all star caliber
Kobe
Gasol
Bynum
Arrest
Odom
Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:20 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Rondo
Pierce
Allen
Garnett
And basically these guys are all star caliber
Kobe
Gasol
Bynum
Arrest
Odom
esp agree with teh Celtics example
Lakers is Kobe and Gasol... Artest is past his prime, Bynum can't stay healthy and Odom is a 6th man. (But yes, you are correct that is a very talented team)
Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:26 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Arrest
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
The guy cannot make a shot if he is being defending.
The other four are all-stars or at least close to all-star caliber.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:34 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Well he is their fifth best player and a damn good fifth best player.
He also was actually an All Star and is a good defender.
He also was actually an All Star and is a good defender.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:41 pm to sgallo3
In that exact same series Pippen dunked on Ewing and owned his arse for one of the greatest facials I've ever seen. It was Shawn Kemp meets Dominique.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:42 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Well he is their fifth best player and a damn good fifth best player.
He also was actually an All Star and is a good defender.
Yeah, I know he is actually good. He saved them in Game 7 last year, but his shooting is horrendous to watch. His skills have declined and he is definitely not an all-star caliber player right now. IMO, he is not returning next year. For the Lakers sake, they need to play Shannon Brown more even they do not have a PG because he is one athletic, spry motherfricker.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 2:59 pm to sgallo3
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There wasnt any parity back then
Ive got a bulletin for ya, there has NEVER been parity in the NBA. The 90's had probably the most good teams at once however the super team of the Bulls and Jordan overshadowed this. Look at the Rockets team that was only able to win its back to back titles when MJ was out of the game. This was a great basketball team.
The NBA is so watered down now and coupled with the lack of development of the young players the quality has dropped off.
Memphis or the Thunder are going to be in the WCF!!
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:33 pm to bomber77
My iphone just had a 3 peat
This post was edited on 5/11/11 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:33 pm to bomber77
3 peat
This post was edited on 5/11/11 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:34 pm to bomber77
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lack of development of the young players the quality has dropped off.
Youth sports development is at an all time high in all the major sports. (boxing doesnt count)
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:38 pm to ZenFNmaster
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In that exact same series Pippen dunked on Ewing and owned his arse for one of the greatest facials I've ever seen. It was Shawn Kemp meets Dominique.
Favorite dunk of all-time. The dunk, the stare down, Spike Lee, everything.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:45 pm to sgallo3
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Youth sports development is at an all time high in all the major sports
For frick sake, Im talking about the 3 or 4 years of college experience these guys use to get to learn the game and improve. Compare this years NBA draft class to the classes in the 80's!! Its a fricking joke!
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:50 pm to bomber77
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For frick sake, Im talking about the 3 or 4 years of college experience these guys use to get to learn the game and improve.
Nowadays, kids are better off spending their time learning the game in the NBA rather than in college. The college game and pro game are nothing alike anymore.
They may mature and gain experience through the college game, but they get better individual coaching, improved training, and practice against better players in the NBA.
This post was edited on 5/11/11 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:14 pm to BayouBengals03
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Nowadays, kids are better off spending their time learning the game in the NBA rather than in college. The college game and pro game are nothing alike anymore.
They may mature and gain experience through the college game, but they get better individual coaching, improved training, and practice against better players in the NBA.
Ive never understood why anyone would think a player would receive better coaching in college than the nba. NBA coaches are better, their staffs are bigger, and the kids full life revolves around basketball. There are restrictions on the lengths and total time spent practicing in college. Also, practicing against better competition is better IMHO
This post was edited on 5/11/11 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:21 pm to sgallo3
playing in games> NBA practice
go back to mid-late 90s and early 2000 with the high school to NBA craze, as well as Euro infusion. All those talented guys that fizzled out couldnt do shite with NBA coaching. It's really not that specialized.
the 3rd assistant on an NBA team isnt any better than a head coach at a major college.
the biggest thing really though, is maturity, both mentally and physically.
some guys are ready out of HS or after 1 year of college...for every one of them, there are prob 2 that fizzled out.
go back to mid-late 90s and early 2000 with the high school to NBA craze, as well as Euro infusion. All those talented guys that fizzled out couldnt do shite with NBA coaching. It's really not that specialized.
the 3rd assistant on an NBA team isnt any better than a head coach at a major college.
the biggest thing really though, is maturity, both mentally and physically.
some guys are ready out of HS or after 1 year of college...for every one of them, there are prob 2 that fizzled out.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:21 pm to BayouBengals03
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The college game and pro game are nothing alike anymore.
What does this even mean and what does it have to do with learning fundamentals, disapline etc? Did North Carolina play the same ball as the NBA when MJ and Worthy were there? How about UCLA and Alcinder?
The rookies coming into the league are terrible now as a group. The #1 pick in last years draft, Wall, where does he get drafted say in the Jordan draft?
Its the way it is now though, there is no going back.
BTW, I really dont understand why you are latching onto this losing line of thinking. Do you really believe that a better brand of basketball is being played today compared to the 80's and 90's?
This post was edited on 5/11/11 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:29 pm to bomber77
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The rookies coming into the league are terrible now as a group.
drafting has always been terribly inconsistent.
go back and look at the old drafts and see how many starters come out of the draft every year
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Do you really believe that a better brand of basketball is being played today compared to the 80's and 90's?
the teams are better, if you put all the teams from now against their counterparts in the 80s or 90s i promise the modern teams would win more than they lost
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:37 pm to bomber77
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The rookies coming into the league are terrible now as a group
The draft classes in the early '90s were awful too. It's not like this is the only time in history we've had a bad crop of young players.
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BTW, I really dont understand why you are latching onto this losing line of thinking. Do you really believe that a better brand of basketball is being played today compared to the 80's and 90's?
There is better talent in the league top to bottom today than there was in the mid to late '90s. And the skill may not be as good as it was in the '80s and early '90s, but the athletic ability is better, which counts for something. And with more athletic ability, certain skills can be taken to a new level that we have never seen before.
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