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re: Anyone remember when the pelicans thought they hit the jackpot in AD trade?

Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:53 am to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:53 am to
shite, I misspelled an important word

My point was y’all ALL thought the exact opposite of them two posts I quoted when the trade and Zion stuff were going down. Now y’all are using them as excuses and gotchas, smh.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 7:54 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:57 am to
Hang on man, do you NOT change your beliefs when new information becomes available?

How fricking insane would it be for me to still think that Griffin is awesome or that Boston was offering Tatum when we know those things to be factually inaccurate at this point?

The truth is that the Lakers gave up a HUGE amount of shite for a guy who was never going anywhere else, and they did it by negotiating with a below average GM. These are just facts.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:01 am to
We have Ingram and still have a bunch of picks/swaps coming while Lebron dies before our eyes.

We turned Zo into a decent guy but our GM is just terrible at getting value for things.

If we were rolling out Ingram/Zo/Garland with Josh Hart off the bench with those assets, it would be historic trade rape
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:05 am to
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y’all ALL thought the exact opposite of them two posts I quoted when the trade and Zion stuff were going down. Now y’all are using them as excuses and gotchas, smh.

Griffin's career highlight was somehow squeezing all that value from the Lakers for AD. It gave us a false sense of his overall skills. Since that trade, he's shown to be exceptionally incompetent.

Ed Orgeron won a national title. He's got about an 85 IQ and pulled that off. Outlier shite happens in life.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:06 am to
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Hang on man, do you NOT change your beliefs when new information becomes available?

Us Lebron and Alabama fans like to get it right the first time
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:07 am to
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Here we are a few yrs later and the lakers have won a title,


AD is not playing well by any objective measure. Do you really think he is?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88529 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Griffin's career highlight was somehow squeezing all that value from the Lakers for AD.
At the time y’all, as a whole, didn’t even want that value because it wasn’t close to the best offer for y’all.
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It gave us a false sense of his overall skills. Since that trade, he's shown to be exceptionally incompetent.
Louisiana sports fan summed up.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38365 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:20 am to
If there was any hand wringing about the deal it was because:

- we didn’t want to cave to the Klutch/Lebron/Lakers hijacking

- we believed the (false) rumors that Tatum was available

- it took time for draft pick details to leak

- Ingram’s health was still a major question mark


Your argument is that Louisiana sports fans deserve a “smh” when all we’ve done is respond appropriately to developing information, which is very strange since it’s a normal and healthy way to approach shite.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:22 am to
There ain’t nothing normal about you folks
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38365 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:27 am to
No doubt about that

But in this case it would be way fricking weirder to still think Griffin is killing it and that we didn’t get good value for a guy who had us over a barrel.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:30 am to
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Here we are a few yrs later and the lakers have won a title, and the pels are dead last in the west, zion weighs 400lbs and not playing, all the other picks they have made are garbage.


The Pelicans refuse to resign their best talent. They are a bad basketball organization that isn't all-in on winning. That's why AD wanted out. Well, and that ring too.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465279 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:33 am to
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At the time y’all, as a whole, didn’t even want that value because it wasn’t close to the best offer for y’all.

I don't think there were any better offers in reality. Circulating as rumors in the media and Twittersphere? sure.

Also nobody expected that sort of pick haul. It was historic and reset the market entirely

The biggest issues were (1) Ingram's health and (2) Zo's value/attitude. Ingram has been healthy and Zo forced his way out as expected. So the worries weren't unfounded.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465279 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:34 am to
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The Pelicans refuse to resign their best talent.

Are you talking about Zo?

1. He's nowhere close to our "best" talent

2. He chose to sign with Chicago and let it be known he didn't want to be in Nola. So you think it would be wise to overpay for him while he acted like a malcontent? That's the biggest issues with the Pellies?

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