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Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:58 am to msutiger
Dude, he's pretty much saying that the rule may be one thing but in college, that's what the call is going to end up looking like 99% of the time in that situation.
Is it BS? Sure...
Is it BS? Sure...
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:00 am to Golfer
I'm just going to enjoy the ejection gifs.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:00 am to Golfer
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This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:00 am to msutiger
I think the umpire called an illegal slide.
I think it was an illegal slide. No way the runner had one leg and an arse cheek on the ground before the bag.
quote:
On any force play, the runner must slide on the ground before the base and in a direct line between the two bases.
quote:
“On the ground” means either a head-first slide or a slide with one leg and buttock on the ground before the base.
I think it was an illegal slide. No way the runner had one leg and an arse cheek on the ground before the bag.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:01 am to msutiger
quote:
That is not a legitimate argument on if the call is correct or not. Just because "Thats the way they have always done it," doesnt make it correct.
Exactly.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:02 am to ForkEmDemons
quote:
(4) The runner slashes or kicks the fielder with either leg;
It was a slide, not a slash or kick.
quote:
(5) The runner illegally slides toward or contacts the fielder even if the fielder
makes no attempt to throw to complete a play
No shite. You first have to determine what makes the slide illegal (not sliding directly into the base for example). So you need to quote the other rules.
quote:
or this rule on page 77:
The runner interferes intentionally with a throw or thrown ball, or interferes
with a fielder who is attempting to field a batted ball. If a double play is likely,
and the runner intentionally interferes with the fielder who is attempting to
field the ball, both runner and batter-runner shall be declared out;
Doesn't apply since it refers to fielding batted balls.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:03 am to msutiger
again, sorry you dont live in reality like the rest of us
that kind of slide is going to get called the vast majority of the time in college.
you know, kind of like how if you tell a bowl "eat shite we're too good for you, we're waiting for something better" you're going to get left the frick out.
that kind of slide is going to get called the vast majority of the time in college.
you know, kind of like how if you tell a bowl "eat shite we're too good for you, we're waiting for something better" you're going to get left the frick out.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:03 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:
On any force play, the runner must slide on the ground before the base and in a direct line between the two bases.
quote:
“On the ground” means either a head-first slide or a slide with one leg and buttock on the ground before the base.
And given Golfer's screen shot here, I think you could reasonably interpret that he was possibly up off the ground still.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:04 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:04 am to MOT
quote:
(5) The runner illegally slides toward or contacts the fielder even if the fielder
makes no attempt to throw to complete a play
What I described above shows this. The slide was illegal....one leg and one arse cheek have to be on the ground before the base. This clearly was not the case on this slide.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:05 am to MOT
quote:
No shite. You first have to determine what makes the slide illegal (not sliding directly into the base for example). So you need to quote the other rules.
page 80.
(3) The runner must attempt to avoid a collision if he can reach the base
without colliding.
Since he was out according to the diagram on page 76 he could have slid to the left or right of the base to avoid contact.
Not sure what else there is to say except the rules, which have been posted with links to the NCAA rule book, clearly show that the right call was made.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:09 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:07 am to Dr RC
Now you're making jokes about a different school and sport?
Whatever. Night Forrest
Whatever. Night Forrest
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:08 am to msutiger
well since you cant get reality through your thick skull I may as well hit you with something that will wake you the frick up.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:10 am to ForkEmDemons
quote:
page 80
Wrong again. In the paragraph immediately prior to your quote:
quote:
If the defensive player blocks the base (plate) or base line with clear possession of the ball, the runner may make contact, slide into or make contact with a fielder as long as the runner is making a legitimate attempt to reach the base (plate). Contact above the waist that was initiated by the base runner shall not be judged as an attempt to reach the base or plate.
ETA: As far as this comment is concerned:
quote:
Not sure what else there is to say except the rules, which have been posted with links to the NCAA rule book, clearly show that the right call was made.
Literally everything you have quoted from the book either proves it was the wrong call or doesn't apply to the situation whatsoever.
ETA #2: This is so wrong it is laughable:
quote:
diagram on page 76 he could have slid to the left or right of the base to avoid contact
The diagram shows where the fielder is protected, it is even clearly labeled. The runner has to slide directly into the base, not to either side.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:16 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:13 am to MOT
quote:
the runner may make contact, slide into or make contact with a fielder as long as the runner is making a legitimate attempt to reach the base
If the slide is LEGAL. This slide was ILLEGAL.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:14 am to MOT
quote:
Literally everything you have quoted from the book either proves it was the wrong call or doesn't apply to the situation whatsoever.
Except the runner was already out which takes away the rule you quoted which means the runner has to avoid contact.
It also says that you must avoid contact if possible. The runner clearly initiated contact purposely, which is why those rules apply.
Hence:
On any force play, the runner must slide on the ground before the base and in a
direct line between the two bases. It is permissible for the slider’s momentum
to carry him through the base in the baseline extended (see diagram).
Exception—A runner need not slide directly into a base as long as the
runner slides or runs in a direction away from the fielder to avoid making
contact or altering the play of the fielder. Interference shall not be called.
In this case he clearly slid purposely into the player
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:24 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:16 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:
If the slide is LEGAL. This slide was ILLEGAL
Of course the umpire ruled it was illegal that's why he was called out. This entire discussion is about why it was legal according to the rules.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:19 am to MOT
That slide was not legal according to the rules.
A legal slide involves one leg and one buttock being on the ground when the body reaches the base. A look at the video shows one leg and one buttock were clearly NOT on the ground when the body reached the base. Correct call.
A legal slide involves one leg and one buttock being on the ground when the body reaches the base. A look at the video shows one leg and one buttock were clearly NOT on the ground when the body reached the base. Correct call.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:20 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:21 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:
clearly
It doesn't clearly show that at all.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:26 am to MOT
quote:
It doesn't clearly show that at all.
Watch the slide. He slides very late and into the runner.
Most people don't slide onto the bag. They slide before the bag and then into the bag, not sliding directly on top and into the runner.
When he hits the fielder he is almost on his knees
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:28 am
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