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re: ADs Overwhelmingly Favor Expanded College Football Playoff

Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:28 pm to
Because the semi-finals have been so great right?

The only thing a 4 team playoff has proven is that every year there are never 4 legitimate national championship contenders. The semifinals should theoretically be very competitive games, but they have been overwhelmingly blowouts.

Expanding it to 8 is expansion for expansion sake and has nothing to do with finding the "best" team anymore.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:30 pm to
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Most of all, college football games between top 8 teams are fun to watch


I'm sure LSU-Memphis would have been an instant classic
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:34 pm to
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The only thing a 4 team playoff has proven is that every year there are never 4 legitimate national championship contenders.


In 6 years, the 4th seed has won twice. Lower seeds are 5-7 in the semis, which isn't bad at all.

If anything, the CFP has actually produced more success by lower seeds and 4 seeds than it should have.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:35 pm to
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Not surprising that the conference that could realistically get three teams into a four team playoff aren't in favor of expansion

However pretty much every other conference in the country disagrees and will outvote them when the time comes.


the irony being expanding to 8 will guarantee 2-3 SEC team every year and more SEC vs SEC Title games.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34652 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:35 pm to
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What is gonna suck when they go to 8, which they will, is when teams that lose the CCG are left out in favor of teams that don't play in it, especially when the teams that go and lose made the CCG because they beat the team sitting at home.


Hasn't this already happened?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:36 pm to
Whoever is playing against the “two highest ranked group of 5 teams” might as well have a bye.

They need to consolidate the P5 conferences into 4 conferences, and just take the winners of those conferences for the playoff.

The G5 should have their own playoff.
Posted by fitz
Member since Dec 2019
666 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:37 pm to
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has nothing to do with finding the "best" team anymore
Single elimination format guts the quest for finding the “best” team.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:38 pm to
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In 6 years, the 4th seed has won twice.


1 of those was 2017 Alabama who was the 1 seed going into the last week of the season, losing then put their playoff chances in jeopardy. With 8, at 11-0 they could rest players and avoid having to play a another ranked opponent.

The other was Ohio State which in retrospect was the most talented team, but pro Bama/SEC bias blinded us to.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:38 pm to
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Hasn't this already happened?


yes in 2017 and it sucked.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36309 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:49 pm to
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ADs Overwhelmingly Favor Expanded College Football Playoff
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:51 pm to
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I'm sure LSU-Memphis would have been an instant classic


I'd have liked to see Ohio State/Oregon, Georgia/Oklahoma and Florida/Clemson.

If there wasn't a mandatory G5 rep, it would have been LSU/Baylor. I'm not a fan of a mandatory G5 team, for what that's worth.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:51 pm to
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Single elimination format guts the quest for finding the “best” team.


brah, you can't have series in football
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35487 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:52 pm to
College ADs...

Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:04 pm to
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Single elimination format guts the quest for finding the “best” team.


Football by its very nature will always have to be single elimination.

Which is why keeping the # small is so important if you actually want the best team to win the national championship most years.

You make the playoffs big enough, you're forcing the best team to face a lot of variance.

LSU might not lose to Memphis in the playoffs, but maybe Burrow gets seriously hurt in the game. Adding undeserving teams just punishes the actually worthy teams.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 7:17 pm
Posted by fitz
Member since Dec 2019
666 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:27 pm to
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you can't have series in football
No shite.
Posted by fitz
Member since Dec 2019
666 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:28 pm to
Convinced me.
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
8710 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:53 pm to
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Which is why keeping the # small is so important if you actually want the best team to win the national championship most years.

You make the playoffs big enough, you're forcing the best team to face a lot of variance.

LSU might not lose to Memphis in the playoffs, but maybe Burrow gets seriously hurt in the game. Adding undeserving teams just punishes the actually worthy teams.


Stewart Mandel, of The Athletic, and others feel the exact opposite. They contend that we'll still see the usual suspects win the whole thing because they are the deepest and best prepared to play three tough games back-to-back.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34898 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:01 pm to
4 is perfect, IMO

Instead of worrying about playoff expansion, I wish they'd focus more on regulating the regular season schedules of power 5 teams.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71390 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:11 pm to
Well of course they are. Any blue blood top 20 type team basically folds once they don't make the playoffs.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65071 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:22 pm to
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In 6 years, the 4th seed has won twice. Lower seeds are 5-7 in the semis, which isn't bad at all.


That's not the point he was trying to make. He's saying that the semi-final games have been snoozers for the most part:

2014

#2 Oregon - 59
#3 FSU - 20

#4 Ohio State - 34
#1 Alabama - 28

2015

#1 Clemson - 37
#4 Oklahoma - 17

#2 Alabama - 38
#3 Michigan State - 0

2016

#1 Alabama - 24
#4 Washington - 7

#2 Clemson - 31
#3 Ohio State - 0

2017

#4 Alabama - 24
#1 Clemson - 6

#3 Georgia - 52
#2 Oklahoma - 49

2018

#1 Alabama - 45
#4 Oklahoma - 34

#2 Clemson - 30
#3 Notre Dame - 3

2019

#1 LSU - 63
#4 Oklahoma - 28

#3 Clemson - 29
#2 Ohio State - 23

You add in an additional four teams and you're going to see even shittier games played.
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