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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:09 am to
Posted by InkStainedWretch
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:09 am to
That’s historically inaccurate, the guy who crossed the finish line first in the inaugural Cup race in 1949 was disqualified for having illegal springs and the win was given to the second-place guy. And it happened seven other times through the 1960s, even to big names like Fireball Roberts and Joe Weatherly. After that is when it got rare.

It wasn’t a win taken away but David Pearson during one of his Cup championship seasons, I think in 1968, was disqualified and dropped from a close second-place finish to last because his car was way underweight.
This post was edited on 2/15/25 at 9:10 am
Posted by InkStainedWretch
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:14 am to
I spent a nearly 50-year career in the newspaper business. The last company I worked for had the attitude that if you weren’t in the 18 to 49 age group, you were basically irrelevant and they really didn’t care if you were their customers or not. That if you stay with the people who “got you where you are,” you’ll die with them. Sports leagues including NASCAR and the NCAA are the same way. It is what it is.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:15 am to
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Dancing with the Stars champion



Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:39 am to
Laugh all you want to, but you’re either dense or naive if you don’t think that is going to draw attention in today’s shallow social media driven world. I’ll make you a wager that if you did a broad general poll, more people would recognize Helio from that than racing.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:40 am to
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poll, more people would recognize Helio from that than racing.



lol no. And you think I’m the dense one.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 9:45 am to
The more NASCAR "reaches out", the worse it gets
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:01 am to
Reaching out is not the problem. This sport cannot exist and prosper on a high level in the 21st century as a regional sport centered in the Southeastern United States and aiming for the fan base/demographics of its 1960s to 1980s audience.

The problem is that instead of making new fans by selling the marvelous product they had, they have tried to do it by changing the very nature of the sport into something totally unrecognizable and, basically, not very entertaining.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:09 am to
Changing is how they "reached out". Change everything that made them successful, and for what? Smaller crowds?
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5364 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 10:29 am to
I have mentioned this before on this board. A NASCAR marketing guy told me back in the 1990s in the press box at Talladega before a race that their ultimate goal even at that point in time … this pipe dream has been floating around for a while in the back rooms in Daytona Beach … was not to be the No. 1 racing series, they wanted to go beyond racing, they wanted to be a co-equal major league sport in status and the public consciousness to the NFL, MLB, the NBA and the NHL.

I thought it was lunacy then, 30-odd years have not changed that opinion, and I think that attitude was the start of the whole downfall. Because it could never be.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:05 am to
Castroneves is running the ARCA race, which is about to start on Fox.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:21 am to
Huge wreck
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:22 am to
Have y’all ever heard of YouTuber Cletus McFarland? He’s a car enthusiast and NASCAR fan. He has a huge following. He’s become friends with Greg Biffle and ended up getting a chance to race in the ARCA race today.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:25 am to
They try to hard to will a female driver to become relevant.

Danica is as good as that's going to get I'm afraid. Not sure why but she's clearly the ceiling.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:27 am to
Yeah I tuned in in time to see the Big One …
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:29 am to
And apparently the lead announcer is a woman
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51716 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:34 am to
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And apparently the lead announcer is a woman

Yeah, it’s long time NASCAR pit reporter Jamie Little. She’s not a great announcer, but at least she’s been around NASCAR for a long time and isn’t just someone brought in from outside of the sport.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:36 am to
Janet Guthrie would have done something if she’d come in at a younger age and had decent equipment, Cale Yarborough for one, who was never known to be a BS artist, spoke very highly of her ability to drive a race car.

But the one who should have broken through is Shauna Robinson early on, when she became the only female driver to actually win a NASCAR championship series race. But the thing is, she took a break and had kids, and then tried to come back, and she was a threat to life, limb and equipment, maybe the worst driver ever to pull onto a track in Cup. And call me a Philistine or a chauvinist, but I don’t think a mother with kids is going to push it to the ragged edge as you need to do to be a successful race driver.

So many of the female drivers today come across as social media influencers and brand builders and driving is just a means to gain influence and build their brand.
This post was edited on 2/15/25 at 11:40 am
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:38 am to
Do guys really want a chick calling races, or any sport?
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5364 posts
Posted on 2/15/25 at 11:42 am to
I was there when the first female sports writers came on the scene and I will say the same thing I said close to 50 years ago. If they can do the job, fine. If they’re there to prove a point or check a box, not fine.
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