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re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:29 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:29 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:unless you're haas.
However losing 10% of windtunnel time will mean that if everyone finishes in the same order as they are in now, they will have 12% less than Ferrari 17% less than Mercedes for next year. That will have a big impact!
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F1 2022: Mercedes will have only 280 hours in the Wind Tunnel, Haas 460
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:31 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Lec at 1:20.753 in FP1. Danny Ric qualified for RB at 1:14.7 in 2018. We got a ways to go yet
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:39 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Haas practicing red flag procedures in FP1 once again
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:40 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Ferrari PU practicing red flag procedures in FP1 once again
fify
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:43 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Gasly on team radio: "Who is this s*** guy."
Engineer: "That was Latifi."
Gasly: "Very good job, Nicholas."
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:48 pm to 1999
Latifi taking a wrong turn on the track in Japan and blaming it on the car is peak Latifi 
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:52 pm to YOURADHERE
Jack Doohan not exactly lighting up FP1 in the Alpine. 4 secs behind ALO
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:58 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Rough practice session for the rookies
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:01 pm to busbeepbeep
Yep they are all at the bottom
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:06 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:08 pm to BuckyCheese
Yes, THAT Matt Trumpets
@mattpt55
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@mattpt55
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@MissedApexF1
So there are 5 different categories that are affected and we will start with Wind Tunnel Runs. Originally RBR would have gotten 224 runs, now they get 201 runs vs Ferrari at 240, and Merc at 256.
Wind On time drops to 50 hours from 56 vs Ferrari at 60 and Merc at 64 and Wind Tunnel occupancy time goes from 280 hours to 252, again with Ferrari having 300 hours and Merc 320 (occupancy matters because it takes time to make changes to models when testing and for computations)
But what about CFD??? Well RBR were originally restricted to 1400 RATGs (Restricted Aero Test Geometries, which basically means each one is a specific shape, any change counts as a new RATG) and now only have 1260. Ferrari get 1500 and Merc 1600.
Last is the amount of time used by computers to solve the equations (expressed in MAUh lol literally Mega Allocation Unit hours and no, go read it yourself if you need further details) which sees RBR trimmed from 4.2 hours to 3.78 whilst Ferrari will get 4.5 hours and Merc 4.8
So what difference does that make overall? Another way to think of this is that Ferrari is going from a 5% advantage overall to a 12% advantage overall and Merc is going from a 10% to a 17% advantage. That is significant IMO, but exactly how much so remains to be seen.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:22 pm to BuckyCheese
Last year Ferrari gained 12% more tunnel time and Binotto said it resulted in less than .1 sec of lap time. That was with a completely new car. Going into next year I would imagine it wouldn't be as much of an advantage with a more mature platform.
Ferrari really threw away a great chance this year. They started the year with the fastest car and fricked up long enough for RB to catch up. Pisses me off just thinking about it
Ferrari really threw away a great chance this year. They started the year with the fastest car and fricked up long enough for RB to catch up. Pisses me off just thinking about it
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:24 pm to BuckyCheese
Can RB just leverage the AT wind tunnel time? Unofficially of course.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:29 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Last year Ferrari gained 12% more tunnel time and Binotto said it resulted in less than .1 sec of lap time.
And Horner claims the 12% less equates to .4-.5 sec.
Believe what you want. I don't see how there is a way to quantify it accurately.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:33 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:well anything Horner says should immediately considered total bullshite
Believe what you want. I don't see how there is a way to quantify it accurately.
but I'm not holding my breath that Ferrari can benefit. They just are to replete with incompetence Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:34 pm to BuckyCheese
Adrian Newey's brain doesn't need no stinkin Mega allocation unit hours.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:38 pm to busbeepbeep
RB doesn't have the straight line advantage that merc had for 6 years. Ferrari is very close but they can't get out of their own way and have some shitty luck. They need to spend the entire off-season figuring out why they get shite tire wear. Lec was faster than max after the botched pitstop but just faded away after 10 laps
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 10/28/22 at 3:04 pm to auisssa
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Can RB just leverage the AT wind tunnel time? Unofficially of course.
You mean can the engineers talk a little shop while standing outside the wind tunnel waiting for their turn? Yes, and it has been addressed that the FIA will not stop it.
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 10/28/22 at 4:05 pm to fightin tigers
https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1586075019415019520
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Chris Medland
@ChrisMedlandF1
If my maths are correct there will be no extra Super Licence point for Logan Sargeant - he completed 22 laps of the 4.304km circuit, which equates to just over 96km. Needs to complete 100km in an FP1 session to earn a SL point
Posted on 10/28/22 at 4:10 pm to bikerack
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