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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:15 pm to
Actual fans want to win and Donaldson can help with that. You should let it go. All that butt hurt creates a bias and clouds objectivity.

Travis Shaw makes a lot of sense in Texas on an incentive based deal as well. I'd explore sending Choo to San Diego for Myers plus cash and/or Hedges. I think they would entertain that.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:18 pm to
Shaw or Franco would be some interesting cheap options
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:19 pm to
I’ve heard Travis Shaw mentioned. I wouldn’t be against that.

quote:

Actual fans want to win and Donaldson can help with that. You should let it go. All that butt hurt creates a bias and clouds objectivity.


No thanks. We drafted two 3B with our two first round picks in the last draft. I’d be fine signing Rendon and basically only being able to use them as trade pieces, but I’m not willing to hold back those guys for Donaldson.

As a season ticket holder, id legitimately rather lose 100 games next year with no Donaldson than compete for the postseason with him. That’s how much I hate the guy.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:25 pm to
Rendon signed with the Angels, clown
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9382 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:26 pm to
At the minimum, it will take 2-3 years for either to pan out... if they even pan out. Signing somone for 3-4 years does not mess with their timeline. It's the AL, there are plenty of ways to get guys at bats if they're forcing their way into a lineup. When Joey Gallo was drafted, who in their right mind saw him at a starting CF'er?


I get it as you made it pretty clear on your hate of Donaldson. There's really no point on furthering that conversation.
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:59 pm to
We need Donaldson
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:19 pm to
On this date in 1980, Dave Winfield signed a 10 year 16 million dollar contract. The largest in sports at the time.
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:28 pm to
Would love the rangers to trade for Andujar and sign Castellanos. Still need bullpen help too.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:04 pm to
A lot of Yankees fans want LeClerc for Andujar
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:06 pm to
The "official" trade
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The Rangers have acquired two-time A.L. Cy Young Award winner Corey Kluber and cash considerations from Cleveland for RHP Emmanuel Clase and OF Delino DeShields. Roster is at 39.
if Cleveland sent cash to offset Kluber's deal and that is all they received back I'm so going to laugh.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30030 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:17 pm to
When you pull for a small market team, you get used to this shite. Indians can’t afford Kluber based on his injuries and production from last season.

Moving him and Bauer means they better sign Lindor to a huge deal.

Also, credit to Tito. He has this team consistently competing while holding things together with glue and tape.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:20 pm to
Lindor/Ramirez isn't enough not even with Clevinger, Plesac, Bieber, and hopefully a healthy Carasco.
Do they have any other offense? Reyes in the OF, Carlos Santana at 1B


I love the stadium and the fans use to support that club but over the last 6 years they've ranked last or near last in attendance. They really don't deserve the run they've had.
This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 2:21 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30030 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

but over the last 6 years they've ranked last or near last in attendance.


There’s been frustrations with the owners for quite some time. They’re cheap.

quote:

Do they have any other offense?


They need someone to step up, simply put. Kipnis was trash the last couple of years, at least they trimmed that fat. Zimmer and Naquin didn’t pan out. Relying on guys like Jake Bauers won’t get it done.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:39 pm to
Frustration with ownership when they've been players at the trade deadline, winning the division, and having some great players does not excuse ranking last in attendance.

They need a lot to step up offensively. The Twins are young and have talent.
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10394 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:45 pm to
Well they don't rank last in attendance.

Anyway. I hope the 45m in salary that's been cleared up in the past six months gets some offensive fire power
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:52 pm to
2019: 21st
2018: 21st
2017: 22nd
2016: 28th
2015: 29th

During that time Cleveland has won
2019: 93
2018: 91
2017: 102
2016: 94
2015: 81
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10394 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:57 pm to
No sense arguing with a Yankee's fan when one pitcher makes a third of the Indians entire payroll
Posted by POCKET
Member since Nov 2011
2652 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:59 pm to
If Cleveland is truly providing some cash relief, I’m surprised this is all they could get for Kluber.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 2:59 pm to
Sorry you don't support your team
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