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2020 BBWAA Baseball Hall of Fame ballot announced
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:30 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:30 am
Rk Name YoB % of Ballots
Curt Schilling 8th 60.90%
Roger Clemens 8th 59.50%
Barry Bonds 8th 59.10%
Larry Walker 10th 54.60%
Omar Vizquel 3rd 42.80%
Manny Ramirez 4th 22.80%
Jeff Kent 7th 18.10%
Scott Rolen 3rd 17.20%
Billy Wagner 5th 16.70%
Todd Helton 2nd 16.50%
Gary Sheffield 6th 13.60%
Andy Pettitte 2nd 9.90%
Sammy Sosa 8th 8.50%
Andruw Jones 3rd 7.50%
Derek Jeter 1st
Bobby Abreu 1st
Jason Giambi 1st
Cliff Lee 1st
Rafael Furcal 1st
Eric Chavez 1st
Josh Beckett 1st
Brian Roberts 1st
Alfonso Soriano 1st
Carlos Pena 1st
Paul Konerko 1st
Chone Figgins 1st
Marco Scutaro 1st
Raul Ibanez 1st
Brad Penny 1st
Jason Bartlett 1st
Adam Dunn 1st
Lyle Overbay 1st
J.J. Putz 1st
Ryan Ludwick 1st
Jose Valverde 1st
Alex Gonzalez 1st
Jamey Wright 1st
Joe Saunders 1st
Nate McLouth 1st
Heath Bell 1st
Kyle Farnsworth 1st
Curt Schilling 8th 60.90%
Roger Clemens 8th 59.50%
Barry Bonds 8th 59.10%
Larry Walker 10th 54.60%
Omar Vizquel 3rd 42.80%
Manny Ramirez 4th 22.80%
Jeff Kent 7th 18.10%
Scott Rolen 3rd 17.20%
Billy Wagner 5th 16.70%
Todd Helton 2nd 16.50%
Gary Sheffield 6th 13.60%
Andy Pettitte 2nd 9.90%
Sammy Sosa 8th 8.50%
Andruw Jones 3rd 7.50%
Derek Jeter 1st
Bobby Abreu 1st
Jason Giambi 1st
Cliff Lee 1st
Rafael Furcal 1st
Eric Chavez 1st
Josh Beckett 1st
Brian Roberts 1st
Alfonso Soriano 1st
Carlos Pena 1st
Paul Konerko 1st
Chone Figgins 1st
Marco Scutaro 1st
Raul Ibanez 1st
Brad Penny 1st
Jason Bartlett 1st
Adam Dunn 1st
Lyle Overbay 1st
J.J. Putz 1st
Ryan Ludwick 1st
Jose Valverde 1st
Alex Gonzalez 1st
Jamey Wright 1st
Joe Saunders 1st
Nate McLouth 1st
Heath Bell 1st
Kyle Farnsworth 1st
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 11:31 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:34 am to barry
Here are all the players with WAR over 40. WAR7 is the total WAR from the players 7 best seasons.
Name--WAR--WAR7
Barry Bonds-- 162.8-- 72.7
Roger Clemens-- 139.2-- 65.9
Curt Schilling-- 79.5-- 48.6
Larry Walker-- 72.7-- 44.7
Derek Jeter-- 72.4-- 42.4
Scott Rolen-- 70.2-- 43.7
Manny Ramirez-- 69.4-- 40
Andruw Jones-- 62.8-- 46.5
Todd Helton-- 61.2-- 46.5
Gary Sheffield-- 60.5-- 38
Andy Pettitte-- 60.2-- 34.1
Bobby Abreu-- 60-- 41.6
Sammy Sosa-- 58.6-- 43.8
Jeff Kent-- 55.4-- 35.7
Jason Giambi-- 50.5-- 42.2
Omar Vizquel-- 45.6-- 26.8
Cliff Lee-- 43.5-- 39.8
Name--WAR--WAR7
Barry Bonds-- 162.8-- 72.7
Roger Clemens-- 139.2-- 65.9
Curt Schilling-- 79.5-- 48.6
Larry Walker-- 72.7-- 44.7
Derek Jeter-- 72.4-- 42.4
Scott Rolen-- 70.2-- 43.7
Manny Ramirez-- 69.4-- 40
Andruw Jones-- 62.8-- 46.5
Todd Helton-- 61.2-- 46.5
Gary Sheffield-- 60.5-- 38
Andy Pettitte-- 60.2-- 34.1
Bobby Abreu-- 60-- 41.6
Sammy Sosa-- 58.6-- 43.8
Jeff Kent-- 55.4-- 35.7
Jason Giambi-- 50.5-- 42.2
Omar Vizquel-- 45.6-- 26.8
Cliff Lee-- 43.5-- 39.8
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 11:36 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:34 am to barry
Here's my ballot (in order of how they're listed):
1) Schilling
2) Clemens
3) Bonds
4) Walker
5) ManRam
6) Rolen
7) Sheffield
8) Jones
9) Jeter
10) Cliff Lee
ETA: I also think Helton should be in.
ETAA: And Pettitte too
1) Schilling
2) Clemens
3) Bonds
4) Walker
5) ManRam
6) Rolen
7) Sheffield
8) Jones
9) Jeter
10) Cliff Lee
ETA: I also think Helton should be in.
ETAA: And Pettitte too
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 11:41 am
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:36 am to barry
Jeter might be the only inductee.
Well, only one through the BBWAA ballots.
Well, only one through the BBWAA ballots.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:38 am to barry
So explain to me again how Chone Figgins and Nate McLouth came to be on a Hall of Fame ballot?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:38 am to LSUGrad9295
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So explain to me again how Chone Figgins and Nate McLouth came to be on a Hall of Fame ballot?
I don't know what the qualifications are beyond playing for 10 years, but I know that's one of the qualifications.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:41 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:
So explain to me again how Chone Figgins and Nate McLouth came to be on a Hall of Fame ballot?
Everyone who plays for 10+ seasons is eligible to be on the ballot 5 years after retiring.
If they can't get 5% of the vote, and I think only Jeter, Abreu, Giambi, and Lee have a shot at that, then they drop off.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:41 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:
So explain to me again how Chone Figgins and Nate McLouth came to be on a Hall of Fame ballot?
They played in at least one game for a decade. That’s the criteria.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:43 am to ProjectP2294
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I don't know what the qualifications are beyond playing for 10 years, but I know that's one of the qualifications.
I think its a committee now that screens them, but that is the general rule of thumb and 5 years from last game.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:44 am to barry
quote:
I think its a committee now that screens them
There is, but I think they only need 2 nominations, and there's no limit, so pretty much everyone eligible gets to be on the ballot.
Some of them even get a pity vote or two from the local writers... which is a shame because those are votes that should be going to someone legitimately worthy.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:44 am to ProjectP2294
Can't wait to see Jeter get first ballot HOF and Rolen get ~22% of the vote with almost identical WAR numbers and both infielders.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:46 am to LSUBoo
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Some of them even get a pity vote or two from the local writers... which is a shame because those are votes that should be going to someone legitimately worthy.
you would think with 10 slots they wouldn't need it, but these assholes keep letting the ballot clog up. It's not a pity vote, its usually a nod from a local sportwriter. I like it actually.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:48 am to barry
quote:
It's not a pity vote, its usually a nod from a local sportwriter. I like it actually.
That's what I meant. I don't have a problem with it, other than it's not fixing the backlog of legit candidates.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:50 am to LSUBoo
quote:
it's not fixing the backlog of legit candidates.
The only thing that's going to help that is writer's getting off of their high horse and pushing guys through.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:52 am to LSUBoo
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That's what I meant. I don't have a problem with it, other than it's not fixing the backlog of legit candidates.
Over the next 3 ballots, there is only likely 3 HOF candidates (Arod, Ortiz, Beltran) and none next year, so hopefully it clears out.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:52 am to ProjectP2294
Well here's the perfect year to do it.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:54 am to ProjectP2294
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The only thing that's going to help that is writer's getting off of their high horse and pushing guys through.
I can't possibly wrap my head around Scott Rolen, not getting in yet, much less have less than 20%.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:58 am to barry
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Over the next 3 ballots, there is only likely 3 HOF candidates (Arod, Ortiz, Beltran) and none next year, so hopefully it clears out.
Fun fact, Mark Buehrle (eligible next year) has a higher career WAR than Ortiz. He might get enough votes to stay on the ballot, but he's never getting in.
I wonder if A-Rod is going to have a shot at it. I think he's a no-doubter, but if they refuse to put guys like Bonds and Clemens in, then it doesn't bode well for A-Rod.
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