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jackwoods4
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
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I re-read yalls 4th line tonight and laughed pretty hard. I also refer to yalls second F line as "the -aydens"



Yeah, the first several weeks/months of this season will make or break everything. If this group of ragtag forward lines can somehow stay in contention until Steen/Berglund/Sanford are healthy, who knows.


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Baloo
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Man, I know he's a Flyer, but I love Wayne Simmonds. He's just a hockey player, if that makes sense.


Bags of Milk
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Thoughts on the Oilers Flames game last night.

- Always nice beating Calgary especially to go 5-in-a-row. The sun is brighter, fall air more crisp and whiskey tastes better.
- McDavid is faster this year, on his second goal he topped out at 41 km/h. I'm not sure what that is in freedom units but it would get him a $167 fine if he did it in a playground zone.
- Mike Smith played an excellent game. If he can keep this up all year the flames will be a tough team to beat.
- It's too early to be worried about offense but the Flames were desperately outplayed by 3/4 lines last night. I thought Glass and Hathaway were their best forwards which is never a good sign.
- Oilers D played a very good game, top pairing was steady. I liked Nurses game, looks like he is slowly putting it together. Russel was a bit panicky but that's his game.
- Yamamoto had first game jitters and I expect he will get 9 games and then back to Junior. I hope he gets a bit of power play time.


jefforize
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Our top lines did look awful. Defense held up well until the McDavid rush.

Smith looked good i agree. We had too few chances on O. If we dont score on Winnipeg Saturday, ill be considerably more worried.


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sms151t
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
I would take Simmonds on the Habs in a heartbeat.

I still want to wake up and learn that the Pernell trade was just a bad April Fool's Day joke.
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devils1854
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
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his second goal he topped out at 41 km/h. I'm not sure what that is in freedom units


Thats like 85 mph I believe.


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Mr Personality
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
First look at what is generally considered to be an awful Habs team tonight


Baloo
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Caps open against a Senators team minus Karlsson, so... we'll lose.

The team said it knew it had to get younger, and then sent its two best young defensemen to Hershey so it could skate the third pair of Ness and Chorney. I... I can't even process that decision. They are essentially skating AHL vets over real prospects and in order to do so, sent the prospects to the AHL.


ThatMakesSense
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Lightning going all the way if Stamkos can stay healthy


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Mr Personality
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Did you read this Baloo? From PuckDaddy blog. Your thoughts?

LINK

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THE Anderson asks: “Why do the Capitals overvalue Tom Wilson so much?”

Why does any team overvalue a bad player who actively hurts his team? They love that toughness.

It’s funny, I was watching a Caps preseason game and the delusion that surrounds this player, who by the way picked up TWO suspensions in the preseason, was amazing. They were saying he’d get power play time this year, and that they’d like to see him double his career high for goals, which would put him at 14. And also, they still want him to hit 100 penalty minutes.

I don’t know why on earth you think Tom Wilson being on your power play is a good idea, unless you’re trying to get fired. And I don’t know why getting penalty minutes would be seen as a “good thing.” But hey, they love the guy! He’s so tough!





Baloo
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First off, I think analytic types hate Tom Wilson WAY out of proportion to his actual sins. That's because they tend to hate hitting and sneer derisively at toughness. I'm not saying traditional hockey types don't have the tendency to overrate toughness (they do, they make it a fetish at times), but there's a happy middle ground that I think both camps wildly miss.

Second, not to defend either hit, but those are literally the first two suspensions of Wilson's career and the second one was pretty much for "being Tom Wilson."

Third, the guy was a first round pick. It's not like he has no skills. We're not talking about Matt Cooke here. The problem is that his development got stunted when the Caps had to keep him on the NHL roster for a full season when he was still 19 due to a rules quirk. And the only NHL level skill he had at 19 was hitting people. It really stifled his development, and put him on the wrong path away from a skill game.


OK, all of those caveats out of the way, Wilson is on the Caps precisely because he is the player everyone says the Caps lack: a tough player who drives to the net. The Caps have a rep of being a bunch of soft Euros, then they have Tom Wilson, who will eat your soul. I don't think the team is as soft as the league says (Ovi loves hitting, Backstrom is a really tough player), nor do I think Wilson is as violent as his rep.

But he HAS failed to develop, and he is what he is: a pretty good bottom six player and penalty killer. He scored 3 even strength playoff goals last year includig a game winner. He's not Ovechkin or anything, but to say he's not a contributor is ridiculous. Every good team has a Tom wilson type in their bottom 6. The key is knowing he's a bottom 6 player.

He's also totally replaceable. The Caps signed Smith-Pelly, who does pretty much the same thing without quite as many PIM. Graovac came over, and he's been on the penalty kill. Of course Beagle is a better version of the player they want Wilson to be (I f'n love Jay Beagle, knowing that he's a 4th line center). They wanted wilson to become what Simmonds is and Tkachuk looks like he will become. He just isn't. He's only 23, so he could still develop, but I think it's time to accept he's a bottom 6 guy who can score a bit and infuriate other teams.

I've heard nothing about him being on the power play. That guy is just making that part up. He didn't play any PP in the preseason, and he barely has done it in the past.


Mr Personality
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Agreed on pretty much everything. Maybe he reaches former Caps' Chris Simon's status.


sms151t
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Don't remind me how bad they'll be

I can't believe I thought Howard was going to be the next great USA Olympic goalie at one time.


Mr Personality
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Hey at least you added another French dude. Deslauriers or whoever.


sms151t
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Eichel got 180? Or was it 100?
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BayouBengals03
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Go Preds


sms151t
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
How many damn Alternate Captains do the Sabres have? Hell the refs can talk to the whole damn team.


sms151t
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
That old lady in Buffalo is Murican


sms151t
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Just saw the new penalty on face offs called

Not sure I like it as it puts the Mickey Mouse PP on the ice.


Mr Personality
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re: 2017-18 NHL Season Long Thread
Komarov got a penalty last night for having his helmet too tilted


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