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Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:06 am to hendersonshands
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How much value does a 2019 first round pick have? 4 years is an eternity in sports.
To Hinkie's Process(and maybe con game) so so much.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:08 am to saintsfan22
What is the process? What's the end game?
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:09 am to Solo
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Sixers still suck balls, and that isn't changing anytime soon.
Why? Noel could have easily won ROY and could be a perfect pairing next to Okafor.
They have like four first round picks next year and Saric will be coming over.
If Embiid turns out to be awesome/healthy in a year they suddenly have a super good asset to move.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:11 am to saintsfan22
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How much value does a 2019 first round pick have? 4 years is an eternity in sports.
To Hinkie's Process(and maybe con game) so so much.
That is very lucrative piece if they end up turning in to a playoff team during this.
It isn't like the Eastern conference is over flowing on good playoff teams
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:11 am to RTR America
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:12 am to hendersonshands
I mean....tell me who has handled a complete rebuild better recently? Cleveland doesn't count.
It's hard to get from the bottom to the top. The 76ers are loaded with picks and exciting young players. I'd rather be in their position than even say....Boston's.
I just think it's the first time i've seen a gm actually stick to a firm plan during rebuilding. There are still trades on the table to be made. Saric is still out there and the 76ers don't exactly need bigs. So many draft picks. One of Okafor, Noel, Embiid could be dealt. Stauskas has value.
The next time a major superstar comes on the market, Philly is in a real position to get them.
It's hard to get from the bottom to the top. The 76ers are loaded with picks and exciting young players. I'd rather be in their position than even say....Boston's.
I just think it's the first time i've seen a gm actually stick to a firm plan during rebuilding. There are still trades on the table to be made. Saric is still out there and the 76ers don't exactly need bigs. So many draft picks. One of Okafor, Noel, Embiid could be dealt. Stauskas has value.
The next time a major superstar comes on the market, Philly is in a real position to get them.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:12 am to Weagle25
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Unfortunately it looks like none of these younger guys have the balls to play with Kobe so we're just going to have to wait.
Much more likely that these young guys can see that the Lakers franchise is a dumpster fire run by idiots who don't know what they're doing and coached by a guy who "does not believe in" the way elite teams play these days.
6 years ago ya'll had prime Kobe and Phil Jackson. It was easy to sell the franchise to big time players.
Yall now have Byron Scott and old as dirt DGAF Kobe.
Lakers only hope at this point is to suck for another couple years and draft well.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:32 am to Sandkhan
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The 76ers are loaded with picks and exciting young players.
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just think it's the first time i've seen a gm actually stick to a firm plan during rebuilding. There are still trades on the table to be made. Saric is still out there and the 76ers don't exactly need bigs. So many draft picks. One of Okafor, Noel, Embiid could be dealt. Stauskas has value.
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The next time a major superstar comes on the market, Philly is in a real position to get them.
I wish. Maybe in a few years. Maybe.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:35 am to RTR America
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If Embiid turns out to be awesome/healthy in a year they suddenly have a super good asset to move.
Embiid to LA, Russell to Philly
Do it.
Though I like Embiid and wish there was a really good way to keep all three bigs, but we need a good lead guard.
As for next year's picks, our pick should be a lottery pick. It's looking like LA's will also be a lottery pick. IIRC the other two belong to Miami and OKC, I don't know the protections on them, but those teams will probably make deep playoff runs, so they're just late firsts, but still a good spot to find a diamond.
I'm hoping Saric becomes a decent role player off the bench.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:36 am to hendersonshands
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What is the process? What's the end game?
Hopefully a young core of good-great players that you can hold on to for a looooong time/most of their careers. Hopefully. It'll either work or it won't, but it's better than being stuck in 30-40 win hell.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:56 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
If I were Philly, and I wanted to trade a piece out of that 3 man rotation, i'd move Noel. At this moment, I wouldn't move any of them, but Noel is the one closest to being off his rookie deal. Embiid and Okafor have higher ceilings. If Stauskas can be a decent starting 2, then they are only missing a few pieces. With 9 million draft picks coming up, many of them in the lotto, i'm willing to bet they land a few. They could even start trading up for picks and stuff now. Big time players moving forward.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:58 am to Sandkhan
You're not wrong, but I hope we don't consider moving Noel. He's got multiple time DPotY written all over him and I hate to see the defensive guys get undervalued. I don't wanna lose any of the bigs, but I get that we probably have to. 
And Embiid's upside could net the most in return.
And Embiid's upside could net the most in return.Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:05 am to Sandkhan
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If I were Philly, and I wanted to trade a piece out of that 3 man rotation, i'd move Noel. At this moment, I wouldn't move any of them, but Noel is the one closest to being off his rookie deal. Embiid and Okafor have higher ceilings.
Disagree on about all of this. Noel just had a near historic season for a rookie defensively.
Take my chances on developing his offensive side of the game.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:08 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
There's no way in hell I move Embiid unless I know he won't ever be healthy. I just think he has stud written all over him. I'd move anyone else before I move him. Now, if you know things about his foot...that's a different thing. I wouldn't move anyone this year at all. 3 bigs with versatility. Even when Saric comes over you don't HAVE to move any of them.
Let it sort itself out. I'm willing to bet at least one of these guys become a superstar and there's a good chance another is all star level. With all the picks....it's an exciting time.
Let it sort itself out. I'm willing to bet at least one of these guys become a superstar and there's a good chance another is all star level. With all the picks....it's an exciting time.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:11 am to Sandkhan
You're right. And again, Embiid is awesome. I want him to become dominate as a Sixer.
Hinkie...just when I start to doubt him he pulls me back in. If the Sixers are competing in the Eastern conference in a couple of years and still get high lottery picks via swapping with the Kings...this man's long term thinking is something else. Even when it looks like you don't know what he's doing, he pulls something like this. He's got the benefit of the doubt from now on from me.
Hinkie...just when I start to doubt him he pulls me back in. If the Sixers are competing in the Eastern conference in a couple of years and still get high lottery picks via swapping with the Kings...this man's long term thinking is something else. Even when it looks like you don't know what he's doing, he pulls something like this. He's got the benefit of the doubt from now on from me.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:12 am to RTR America
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Take my chances on developing his offensive side of the game.
I like that Noel seems to be serious about developing his offense.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:14 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Much easier to develop that side of a guy's game than the instincts he has on defense.
Plus how many teams throw the ball in to the post have a guy go to work nowadays? Not many.
Plus how many teams throw the ball in to the post have a guy go to work nowadays? Not many.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:15 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I'm always amazed by Philly
Just when you think they might get serious about competing sometime soon...nope...they pull another deal like this
Each move seemingly puts them back another 2 years. At this rate they'll be relevant in 2025
Just when you think they might get serious about competing sometime soon...nope...they pull another deal like this
Each move seemingly puts them back another 2 years. At this rate they'll be relevant in 2025
Posted on 7/2/15 at 1:17 am to jimithing11
Trading 2 2nd round draft and stash players and acquiring a lottery pick from last year's draft set them back?
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