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12-1 Michigan > 11-1 Notre Dame > 12-1 Ohio State

Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:02 pm
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:02 pm
I really hope ND loses to the Orange so we can see this play out so I can gloat about it, but they probably won’t, so nevermind.

Basically UM’s SOS will be somewhere around #5 if they win out; ND’s will be ~25; tOSU’s will be ~40.

UM > 1-loss ND because of a better record and tougher schedule. Better record + tougher schedule pretty much always wins; the late hypothetical loss by ND only adds to it. tOSU’s big loss to Purdue + weaker schedule will negate the slim winning % margin they’d have over 1-loss ND.

I can’t tell you how important it is for all of you to bookmark this post. Cereal.
Posted by GeauxTGRZ
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:13 pm to
So Michigan doesn't play Ohio State this year?
Posted by Retrograde
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

So Michigan doesn't play Ohio State this year?


OP care to elaborate?
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:25 pm to
Surprised this needs to be explained.

“12-1 Michigan” implies Michigan wins out.
“11-1 Notre Dame” implies Notre Dame loses one before the end of the regular season.
“12-1 Ohio State” implies Ohio State wins out.
Posted by Rize
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:30 pm to
Ohio State and Michigan already have one loss and they still play each other.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:31 pm to
Gonna be kind of hard for Ohio State and Michigan to both finish with one loss since they each already have a loss and still have to play each other in a few weeks
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:33 pm to
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12-1 Michigan” implies Michigan wins out.

quote:

12-1 Ohio State” implies Ohio State wins out.

Literally impossible

That’s why it needs to be explained
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:37 pm to
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That’s why it needs to be explained


He's saying that if Michigan wins out they should be in ahead of a one loss ND (hypothetical) even though ND won the head to head.

If Ohio St wins out they shouldn't get in ahead of a one loss ND.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:45 pm to
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Literally impossible

That’s why it needs to be explained

Jesus, guys.

If Notre Dame goes 11-1 and Michigan goes 12-1, Michigan will be ranked ahead of Notre Dame.

If Notre Dame goes 11-1 and Ohio State goes 12-1, Notre Dame will be ranked ahead of Ohio State.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:48 pm to
Nope but it could spark Notre Dame joining a conference. Also they’d be losing really late in the year to a soft team with no conference championship to rectify that win. Literally 0% chance
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:54 pm to
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Also they’d be losing really late in the year to a soft team
If Syracuse beats Notre Dame, they’re gonna end up 10-2 with their only losses coming to the two ACC division champs.

Boiler Up.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:55 pm to
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UM > 1-loss ND because of a better record and tougher schedule. Better record + tougher schedule pretty much always wins;


Except head to head is literally a stated criteria the committee considers, and last I checked Notre Dame still has that over Michigan. If Notre Dame's one loss is a close game to a 10-2 Syracuse, who will likely be in the 10-15 range if they beat ND, on a "neutral" field in Yankee Stadium, ND will be very close to getting in.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

So Michigan doesn't play Ohio State this year?
this post has 6 upvotes, damn there's a lot of retards here
quote:

Literally impossible 

That’s why it needs to be explained

Jesus Christ
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 9:59 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:00 pm to
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Except head to head is literally a stated criteria the committee considers, and last I checked Notre Dame still has that over Michigan.
so is a conference championship, fwiw. And I'm pretty sure one of the chairman is on record saying they're all weighted equally.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:03 pm to
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Except head to head is literally a stated criteria
And so are record and strength of schedule. Head-to-head is more or less a tie breaker. They won’t be tied; Michigan will be ahead.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:07 pm to
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He's saying that if Michigan wins out they should be in ahead of a one loss ND (hypothetical) even though ND won the head to head


it's against my religion.

Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11719 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:09 pm to
Sure that's possible, but really if that is the case it would be between getting the 3 and 4 seed, and the only difference at that point is losing to Bama in the semis vs in the finals.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:20 pm to
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Sure that's possible, but really if that is the case it would be between getting the 3 and 4 seed, and the only difference at that point is losing to Bama in the semis vs in the finals.
Boomer....
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:36 pm to
That would be a test to see how much a conference championship matters. The worst case for the Big 12 is having WVU and OU split the last week of the season and the Big 12 Championship.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 10:37 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:20 am to
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That would be a test to see how much a conference championship matters.
in ND's case, going 12-0 or 11-1 should be equivalent to a conference championship
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