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Why aren’t tips tax deductible?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 12/1/17 at 6:37 pm
Or are they and I’m missing a huge deduction every year?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 6:48 pm to LesterDiamond
Because they're earned income.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:01 pm to LesterDiamond
If you count them as revenue and pay them out they are deductible. Not deductible if you don't report them obviously
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:06 pm to LesterDiamond
Or just say they are gifts, and take the sweet exemption
ETA: unless you are talking about the person tipping
ETA: unless you are talking about the person tipping
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:18 pm to RJSambola
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unless you are talking about the person tipping
I meant why isn’t tipping the same as a charitable donation?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:29 pm to LesterDiamond
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I meant why isn’t tipping the same as a charitable donation?
Only donations to recognized charities are deductible, and then only if you itemize. Just handing to a bum $5 does not count, nor does tipping for service.
I take the standard deduction, so I get screwed on charitable donations. People who have a big mortgage and other deductions get to deduct their donations to the same charities. How the hell is that fair?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:52 pm to Twenty 49
I give all my tips in the form of checks and in the “for” column put charitable donation
Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:35 am to LesterDiamond
that's actually an excellent point....someone is a begging for charity, you donate to their cause...it is a charitable donation...I'm going to give a try this year
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:51 am to LesterDiamond
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I meant why isn’t tipping the same as a charitable donation?
Because people working at jobs aren't charities. There are very stringent rules about what is considered a charity, and thus tax exempt.
I don't see how tipping could by that big of a deduction anyway.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:23 pm to LesterDiamond
Like the tip you add at the end of a meal?
If the tip is part of a legitimate business expense, and it's documented, I would absolutely treat the tip the same as the underlying expense.
So... a tip for a business meal would just be added to the cost of the meal (50% deduction)
Tips for Uber drivers, if I made them in the app, would be part of business travel.
The problem is the couple of bucks in cash here and there for the doorman at the hotel, the skycap, etc. No way to substantiate those.
If the tip is part of a legitimate business expense, and it's documented, I would absolutely treat the tip the same as the underlying expense.
So... a tip for a business meal would just be added to the cost of the meal (50% deduction)
Tips for Uber drivers, if I made them in the app, would be part of business travel.
The problem is the couple of bucks in cash here and there for the doorman at the hotel, the skycap, etc. No way to substantiate those.
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