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What's a qualified dividend and is there really no tax on it?

Posted on 2/12/24 at 5:53 am
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1321 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 5:53 am
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If you’re married and make $123,250 from dividends, you’re taxed 0%.

That's NO tax on qualified dividends and long-term capital gains.

The couple with a paid off home gets $120,000 tax-free on their $3,000,000 investment account with a 4% dividend.

Middle-class millionaires.

LINK

WTF is this guy talking about? If this is true, why do we have to report dividends on our taxes every year?
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 6:04 am
Posted by Stateguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
886 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 6:22 am to
Certainly others are going to give a more knowledgable answer than I do

Dividends are taxed at cap gains rate after owning for some period (?90 days?)

There is some amount of cap gains/qual dividends that you don't pay taxes on if that is your only income. Combine that with standard deduction and you can have fair amount of income if these are your ONLY income and not be taxed.

I did not think it was $120k but maybe

It is misleading at best or outright lie (to get views or make some inequality point I assume) to say that there are no taxes on qualified dividends.

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josh.paiva
MFJ 0-94,050 is 0% LTCG rate, plus standard deduction. OP is technically correct, if that is the only source of income, it would all be taxed at zero percent.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 6:25 am
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7675 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:50 am to
Is that a link to some random Threads post?
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
1500 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:01 am to
Uhmm no. Unless the divy came from something like a ROTH IRA and you are over 59 and half.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4741 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Unless the divy came from something like a ROTH IRA and you are over 59 and half.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the dividend have to be re-invested or stay in the acct for 5 years before it comes out tax free in a Roth for people 59.5 or older?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84766 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:13 am to
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If this is true, why do we have to report dividends on our taxes every year?


Because it might be taxable. You figure all of your other income and then calculate the taxes owed on the qualified dividend accordingly.

It’s also taxed as ordinary income for LA state purposes so $0 is very unlikely.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37059 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:37 am to
A qualified dividend is a dividend in the normal way we think of them... payments from corporations that are made to shareholders.

It is true that if your total taxable income is below certain levels, there is a 0% federal tax rate that applies to qualified dividends and long term capital gains that are part of that taxable income.

You need to report them because they are indeed part of your taxable income, and if your taxable income is too high, you lose this 0% rate on this kind of income.

Also as Slackster said, this does not apply to most states that charge an income tax. So while it might be 0% for federal tax, it will likely still have some state tax consequence, unless you have no state income tax, or another state tax provision applies.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2118 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:45 am to
Zero federal tax rate on LTCG and qualified dividends up to the top of 12% tax bracket. Once you exceed that , plus standard deduction or itemized, you pay 15% on each additional $ of LTCG. Even better, the basis is untaxed so you could sell appreciated shares and take $120k plus the original investment out w no tax (assuming no other income)

If you have other income it fills the brackets first then LTCG are taxed.So say you earn $50k that leaves space for $70k untaxed LTCG.

Nothing to do w Roth except, Roth except that qualified Roth withdrwals arent taxed so one could stack Roth withdrawals and LTCG for a large annual draw without tax.
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