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What is the best way to get a monthly return on an investment?

Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:54 pm
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:54 pm
Say someone was going to receive a hefty windfall. They first paid off debts, added to their emergency fund, and spent a little on fun things. Now, they want to create a monthly income on what's left from the windfall. What is the best way to do this?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:56 pm to
It would seem rental properties would be the easiest way to get monthly cash flow if that's your biggest concern.
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:09 pm to
GOF
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:01 pm to
Rental properties baw. Make sure they cash flow $100-200+/Mo after all net expenses, and setting aside 5% for potential vacancies, and 10% for CapEx/maintenance.

You’ll get some awesome equity too, and start building wealth quickly.

Forgot to add- consider a 8% (of monthly gross rent) Property Management fee too. Even if you’re ok doing your own PM (I wouldn’t be), you want to calculate the returns as if you’re one day going to use PM services. You want as close to mailbox money as possible.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:13 pm to
Annuity is the easiest way to do exactly what you want, but if you ever wanted to take another sizable chunk out for something, emergency, whatever, you'd get fricked.

How much we talkin bout?

You might need to pay a fee- only CFP to walk through this, then come back and post what they said to educate all of us.

Fee-only is key.

Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

What is the best way to get a monthly return on an investment?
real estate purchased without financing
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18945 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:01 pm to
Look up the stock symbol “O”
That’s your best bet.

It’s a real estate investment trust (REIT) that pays 22 cents per share every month.
That’s just over 4% annually at current stock price.

There are also numerous corporate bonds that distribute monthly coupons/payouts.

And if you’d like to buy several properties and rent them, knock yourself out.

Finally, CIM pays enormous dividends every quarter.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 6:33 am to
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real estate purchased without financing



If you have the cash, this is absolutely the best option.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2251 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:22 am to
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Annuity is the easiest way to do exactly what you want, but if you ever wanted to take another sizable chunk out for something, emergency, whatever, you'd get fricked. How much we talkin bout? You might need to pay a fee- only CFP to walk through this, then come back and post what they said to educate all of us. Fee-only is key.



I'm thinking like $200-400K.

Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:32 am to
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I'm thinking like $200-400K.

buy a few duplexes.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:57 am to
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I'm thinking like $200-400K.



Dude, paid for real estate and don't look back. Could probably get 2-3 duplexes, or 2 single family homes. Would provide good, consistent monthly income even with a property manager, great equity, and if shite hits the fan, you can sell them.


Don't get cute, don't go buy a franchise that looks hot, don't buy bonds, don't buy DRIPs or Viaticles or REITs. Keep it simple and you'll be very fricking happy.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15560 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:09 am to
Agreed on duplexes. And stay away from D class neighborhoods. Buy something in a ‘tweener neighborhood for good value, but will also attract quality tenants.

Too many people starting out get starry eyed at super cheap housing in the ghetto, they don’t consider the fact that homes in bad areas attract bad tenants that won’t pay, and then destroy the place when evicted.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24155 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:28 am to
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It’s a real estate investment trust (REIT) that pays 22 cents per share every month.
That’s just over 4% annually at current stock price.


This seems like a super easy approach. Buying, renting, and managing real estate is great for some but a pain in the arse for others.

If he can change his requirement to quarterly rather than monthly cash flow, then it opens up a lot more passive investing options.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64051 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Dude, paid for real estate and don't look back. Could probably get 2-3 duplexes, or 2 single family homes. Would provide good, consistent monthly income even with a property manager, great equity, and if shite hits the fan, you can sell them.


Don't get cute, don't go buy a franchise that looks hot, don't buy bonds, don't buy DRIPs or Viaticles or REITs. Keep it simple and you'll be very fricking happy.



Real estate is the default answer but with markets where they are right now, you are paying a high price for the assets. Not a great buying time for this guy. He can't diversify because that's not enough money to be diverse in real estate.

CFP can take a closer look at their personal private situation and help them make the best choice with that money.

Here, all we can do is just tell him what we would do based on our own personal circumstances.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64051 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:53 am to
quote:

It’s a real estate investment trust (REIT) that pays 22 cents per share every month.
That’s just over 4% annually at current stock price.



With his $200,000 principle, that's $666.666 a month.


I just wanted to point that out.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 11:54 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18945 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

With his $200,000 principle, that's $666.666 a month.


I just wanted to point that out.


This is beside the point, but would anyone here be comfortable throwing that kind of money at a single REIT?
I don't think I would be.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2251 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:11 pm to
Thanks y'all. Appreciate the feedback. Pretty sure a CFP will be talked to so that a solid decision can be made!

Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5600 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:00 am to
Rentals if you dont mind being a landlord

If you're an accredited investor there's attractive yields in non traded alternatives. 6 to 8%

Theres all sorts of dividend paying securities. CEFs, pref stocks, REITs, etc
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:20 am to
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Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
72683 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Rentals if you dont mind being a landlord



he does not have to be a landlord with RE. This narrative needs to die.
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