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re: what is considered middle and upper class in louisiana?

Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:39 pm to
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You're trying to say that someone who makes 400K in LA isn't upper class?
Correct, I am saying they are upper middle class, regardless of what state they live in.

Mondavi is upper class. Bartles and James are middle class. Franzia...well, he is just a douche.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:41 pm to
I think you're confusing upper class with elite status

If you're in the top 1.5% of wage earners, you're upper class. Period.

I'm starting to think you're just arguing to piss me off because I know you're not this stupid.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:42 pm to
chicken, can I ban him?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:44 pm to
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I'm starting to think you're just arguing to piss me off because I know you're not this stupid.


No, but he's from New Orleans.

Pretty typical.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:45 pm to
Maybe you should ask some of the "experts" on the money board what they think.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:45 pm to
Forget the freaking bell curve, Powerman. This isn't just about income. It is also about power and influence, and/or being born wealthy.

Try this page:

LINK

quote:

In the United States the upper class is estimated to constitute roughly 5% of the population. It consists of those with great influence over society and its institution who derive their income from wealth rather than salaries. CEOs, heirs to fortunes, successful venture capitalists as well as celebrities are considered members of this class by contemporary sociologists such as James Henslin or Dennis Gilbert. There tends to be strong sense of kin among the members of this class who are often connected to a global elite of the powerful and rich. There may be prestige differences between different upper class households such as those between Bruce Willis and Bill Clinton with the latter having greater social standing than the former. Yet, all members of this class are so influential and wealthy as to be considered members of the upper class.
This post was edited on 3/29/07 at 3:47 pm
Posted by TiGRB8
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:45 pm to
I have a good friend who makes $700k, his dad is a doctor too, but he wouldn't consider himself 'upperclass'. He says, "I'm rich bitch" but that's just because he can afford any car he wants. He knows his kids will have to earn their own money. He might pay $50k/yr to send his son to college, like his dad did, but he'll let them figure it out on their own after that.

I have another friend who is 'upperclass'. Even though he only lives a few blocks from the first friend, his situation is vastly different. His son is 15 months old, and has more wealth that friend one will have at retirement.

That's just the way it works. Great jobs are one thing, but that doesn't qualify for certian perks. The upperclass friend is a member to a hunting club that money can't get you into. That's upperclass.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:45 pm to
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Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:48 pm to
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In the United States the upper class is estimated to constitute roughly 5% of the population.


And you're the one telling me that people who are well into the top 1.5% aren't upper class

What did you want me to try this page for other than to prove that you weren't only wrong, but you were more wrong than you originally thought?
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I have a good friend who makes $700k, his dad is a doctor too, but he wouldn't consider himself 'upperclass'. He says, "I'm rich bitch" but that's just because he can afford any car he wants. He knows his kids will have to earn their own money. He might pay $50k/yr to send his son to college, like his dad did, but he'll let them figure it out on their own after that.


So he can afford to pay 50K a year to send his kid to college and he's not upper class?

Seriously, you're a fricking idiot
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:49 pm to
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And you're the one telling me that people who are well into the top 1.5% aren't upper class


Only if they're in Comus.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:49 pm to
I think that percentage is wrong, and doesn't correlate with the jist of the text, which backs what me and others are saying.

Chicken - 2
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This post was edited on 3/29/07 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:50 pm to
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I think that percentage is wrong


The jist of that text refers to the elite, not upper class

I can't believe you're actually this stupid

Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:52 pm to
Powerman, you are losing it. Upper Class = Elite.

Don't worry, dude...we have a place for you in the middle class.
Posted by just me
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:53 pm to
I see Chicken's point. My brother-in-law recently sold his his company for eight figures. But they don't think they are upperclass.

However, as much as it might pain me to do this, I agree with Powerman. If you're in the top 1.5% of income, you are in the upperclass. Hell, Chicken's article talks about the top 5%.

I think one can differentiate between trust fund babies and the upper class. They are not co-extensive.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:53 pm to
if he calls you stupid one more time, i swear I am going to ban him.
Posted by LSUCreole
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:53 pm to
thunderdome!!
Posted by Lithium
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

I have a good friend who makes $700k, his dad is a doctor too, but he wouldn't consider himself 'upperclass'. He says, "I'm rich bitch" but that's just because he can afford any car he wants. He knows his kids will have to earn their own money. He might pay $50k/yr to send his son to college, like his dad did, but he'll let them figure it out on their own after that.


Most have a Coke habit or a very young mistress
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:56 pm to
That is a Wikipedia page, so they might have meant to say .5% for all I know. But the point of the passage was that upper class equals elite.


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This post was edited on 3/29/07 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/29/07 at 3:56 pm to
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if he calls you stupid one more time, i swear I am going to ban him.

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