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Tips from current managers
Posted on 9/11/12 at 8:25 am
Posted on 9/11/12 at 8:25 am
Right now in my department, there is a current opening for a manager position. I know the head manager well as he used to be my manager before he got the bigger job this year. He also gave me praise ever since I started last year. My question is this...how can I approach him about getting a shot at an interview for the job and also how would I go about rockin the interview? To me, the job I do is very easy and I get the job done faster than anyone(they are all a least a few years older than me). All managers start somewhere, I figured this could be my shot. Can anyone offer some advice? Thank you and sorry if this was too long.
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Posted on 9/11/12 at 8:43 am to AUtigerNOLA
Just one mans opinion here and based solely on the limited info you gave us.
If you have a good relationship with the hiring manager you should have a casual conversation about the job. Ask about what he/she is looking for in the position and then sell your abilities as being right for the job. Tell them you intend to apply for the position. If the hiring manager dismisses you then all likelihood you'll never advance in the company so long as he/she is there. If nothing else this is good to know.
As for management, let me be the first to tell you that things change when you cross the line from worker to manager. Your workplace friends are no longer your friends and your every move is scrutinized like never before. Being a good worker doesnt necessarily translate into being a good manager or leader. There are many instances where the additional prestige and money are not worth the persistent headache and extra responsibilities so weigh these items carefully.
If you have a good relationship with the hiring manager you should have a casual conversation about the job. Ask about what he/she is looking for in the position and then sell your abilities as being right for the job. Tell them you intend to apply for the position. If the hiring manager dismisses you then all likelihood you'll never advance in the company so long as he/she is there. If nothing else this is good to know.
As for management, let me be the first to tell you that things change when you cross the line from worker to manager. Your workplace friends are no longer your friends and your every move is scrutinized like never before. Being a good worker doesnt necessarily translate into being a good manager or leader. There are many instances where the additional prestige and money are not worth the persistent headache and extra responsibilities so weigh these items carefully.
This post was edited on 9/11/12 at 8:45 am
Posted on 9/11/12 at 8:46 am to AUtigerNOLA
Is the head manager the hiring manager?
If so, you should just ask him if he's got a few minutes, go to his office, tell him you're interested and ask him what steps you need to take to get the job.
Depending on your relationship with your direct supervisor, you might want to inform him of your intentions as well.
If so, you should just ask him if he's got a few minutes, go to his office, tell him you're interested and ask him what steps you need to take to get the job.
Depending on your relationship with your direct supervisor, you might want to inform him of your intentions as well.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 8:55 am to wiltznucs
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Being a good worker doesnt necessarily translate into being a good manager or leader. There are many instances where the additional prestige and money are not worth the persistent headache and extra responsibilities so weigh these items carefully.
Agreed. However, I want to get the manager experience. I want to start young. I can't be doing analyst stuff for another 3-4 years, I feel I am not getting the most out of myself. It makes me feel stuck. Managers in my profession(banking) make a lot more than analysts.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 8:57 am to ZereauxSum
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Is the head manager the hiring manager?
Yes I believe so. Its hard to explain how many managers we got in the department but he is the head and there are 3 or 4 managers under him. I am trying to be one of those.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 8:57 am to AUtigerNOLA
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I feel I am not getting the most out of myself. It makes me feel stuck. Managers in my profession(banking) make a lot more than analysts.
It certainly seems to me like applying for the manager job is in your best interest then. Go for it...
Posted on 9/11/12 at 9:04 am to wiltznucs
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It certainly seems to me like applying for the manager job is in your best interest then. Go for it...
Thanks I appreciate your advice.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 9:09 am to AUtigerNOLA
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I know the head manager well as he used to be my manager before he got the bigger job this year. He also gave me praise ever since I started last year. My question is this...how can I approach him
He may or may not give it to you but if you have a good relationship with him just ask him, it isn't complicated.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 9:22 am to foshizzle
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He may or may not give it to you but if you have a good relationship with him just ask him, it isn't complicated.
Right, I was mainly trying to get advice for interviewing. I think he may let me interview but since I don't have the manager experience, I was looking for some tips. He's knows my aspirations since he hired me before his new big job, but I am trying to wonder if its too soon.
This post was edited on 9/11/12 at 9:24 am
Posted on 9/11/12 at 9:32 am to AUtigerNOLA
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To me, the job I do is very easy and I get the job done faster than anyone(they are all a least a few years older than me).
You need to sell the hiring manager on your leadership abilities and that you can think strategically. Not this.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 9:59 am to Martavius
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You need to sell the hiring manager on your leadership abilities and that you can think strategically. Not this.
Thanks. How can you present leadership skills if you haven't got the chance to do so? At this point I can only assure them that I believe can produce a high performing team. I am trying to develop a plan to present to him.
ETA: Actually I have had some leadership experience. When team leaders are out of town, I take over.
This post was edited on 9/11/12 at 10:04 am
Posted on 9/11/12 at 10:04 am to wiltznucs
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As for management, let me be the first to tell you that things change when you cross the line from worker to manager. Your workplace friends are no longer your friends and your every move is scrutinized like never before
Totoally agree, I just got a promotion in June
Posted on 9/11/12 at 10:10 am to AUtigerNOLA
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AUtigerNOLA
Curious, is this your first job out of school? How long have you been an analyst?
Posted on 9/11/12 at 11:15 am to AUtigerNOLA
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but I am trying to wonder if its too soon.
It's never too soon. If he doesn't think you are ready he will let you know. If that is the case he knows you sought him out for the position and the next time one becomes available you won't have to ask him about it. He will already know you are interested. Good luck.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 11:37 am to barry
Pretty much, yes. I have been an analyst for over 2 years now.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 11:45 am to AUtigerNOLA
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Pretty much, yes. I have been an analyst for over 2 years now.
Go for the position if you want but you should hardly feel "stuck". There is nothing wrong with ambition but you really should feel bad because you are doing the same thing 2 years out of school. The only bad thing about banking is there isn't a lot of lateral movement.
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:57 pm to AUtigerNOLA
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Actually I have had some leadership experience. When team leaders are out of town, I take over.
This is good to point out. Also any projects you worked on where you may have taken the lead on the whole thing or some aspect of it. How you may have helped guide co-workers through change, etc.
I've interviewed many people over the years who were very good workers. Many of them think their good work record automatically makes them leadership material. It's pretty easy to tell whether they really "get it" or not so you have show that you get it.
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