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re: Those who have filed and gambled on sports in 2022, what did you show?
Posted on 3/26/23 at 10:44 pm to thelawnwranglers
Posted on 3/26/23 at 10:44 pm to thelawnwranglers
Many other countries, such as UK and Australia don’t tax gambling winnings at all. Go figure.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:44 am to SaintsTiger
You can deduct losses up to the amount won but as stated, if you aren’t already itemizing, you get absolutely boned from this.
For example, standard deduction is 12k, your itemized deductions outside of gambling losses are 3k, gambling losses/wins are 30k, you are essentially getting taxed on 9k income you didn’t actually earn. Total illogical horseshite.
On another note, I requested win/loss statements from every Tennessee book and only Barstool couldn’t be bothered to get me one.
In your case, there’s not much you can do. For most casual bettors who didn’t win a big score that was taxed already by the book or casino, nothing is reported to the IRS and you are basically on the honor system here.
My guess is they have bigger fish to fry than worrying about a few hundred dollars of income from some casual sports betting schmuck, but who knows.
If you look at the FAQs on taxes on some of these apps they basically was their hands of any liability and tell you to consult a CPA. It’s in the books interest to have people paying as little tax as possible and they essentially imply that they don’t report to the IRS unless you receive a W-2
For example, standard deduction is 12k, your itemized deductions outside of gambling losses are 3k, gambling losses/wins are 30k, you are essentially getting taxed on 9k income you didn’t actually earn. Total illogical horseshite.
On another note, I requested win/loss statements from every Tennessee book and only Barstool couldn’t be bothered to get me one.
In your case, there’s not much you can do. For most casual bettors who didn’t win a big score that was taxed already by the book or casino, nothing is reported to the IRS and you are basically on the honor system here.
My guess is they have bigger fish to fry than worrying about a few hundred dollars of income from some casual sports betting schmuck, but who knows.
If you look at the FAQs on taxes on some of these apps they basically was their hands of any liability and tell you to consult a CPA. It’s in the books interest to have people paying as little tax as possible and they essentially imply that they don’t report to the IRS unless you receive a W-2
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 12:57 am
Posted on 3/27/23 at 10:43 pm to TheWalrus
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Over 600 profit is meaningless unless it’s 300x the original wager or meets those specific requirements.
that is for W2G not 1099
i stated this earlier and it is in my link
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:05 pm to TheWalrus
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Some state that every winning wager is income and every lost bet is gambling losses
no. that is incorrect. read article i posted. track it. itemize. i do not use standard deduction. i have too many other deductions.
draftkings made me fill out a W9 which tells me they want to send a 1099. I figured they would all be like that. maybe not. i think all fanduel showed so far was a possible W2G but that does not apply to me as we discussed earlier as i have not won 300x an amount wagered.
yeah this shite is all jacked up. different crap at all sportsbooks. Damn. i also use two offshore books but those will be not reported for obvious reasons and i use crypto to deposit and withdraw through my exchange.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:46 pm to VermilionTiger
Does the IRS read Tigerdroppings?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:47 pm to geauxpurple
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Does the IRS read Tigerdroppings?
just in case i will go back and delete all posts in this thread once we are done
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:16 pm to Fat Bastard
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For example, standard deduction is 12k, your itemized deductions outside of gambling losses are 3k, gambling losses/wins are 30k, you are essentially getting taxed on 9k income you didn’t actually earn. Total illogical horse shite
Yea this is my situation here. I literally get screwed on my taxes gambling sports because ‘all winnings are classified as additional income.’
So im getting taxed an extra 10k and moved up a tax bracket because of this garbage even tho i should only be taxed on my profit (which is around 10%) and i haven’t even withdrawn any of my balances from my sportsbooks (was hoping the code would be analogous to stocks).
Literally coming out in the red or close to it based off this even tho I profited decently without taxes.
Was hoping i was misunderstanding the tax code on this but this is such bs
Posted on 3/31/23 at 2:20 pm to VermilionTiger
Mine came back that there is nothing to report on both the apps i use, so I didn't. Also im not doing big enough bets that one would even trigger the immediate payment of taxes.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 2:23 pm to jevins_slickin
well you can only deduct gambling losses up to your winnings.
If you have no winnings you cant deduct the losses.
So if you spent 30k and came out with 50k, you are paying on the 20k.
On the flip side if you gambled 30k over the year and only have 10k left, you owe nothing. but you can not take 20k in losses.
If you have no winnings you cant deduct the losses.
So if you spent 30k and came out with 50k, you are paying on the 20k.
On the flip side if you gambled 30k over the year and only have 10k left, you owe nothing. but you can not take 20k in losses.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 3/31/23 at 2:30 pm to VermilionTiger
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but 5/6 apps aren’t even allowing me to print a tax document because I didn’t win enough / win a low odds bet of +300
I’m guessing if they aren’t allowing you to print a tax document they won’t be sending anything to the IRS. At least that’s been my experience with some of these sites on the Daily Fantasy Sports side of things
I would think if you want a 2022 P&L each site’s customer support could send you an excel doc
If there is a 1099 or W2G or whatever available for you to access at one of your books, I’d guess the IRS will have their hands on that as well. So I’d report that
You’re supposed to report all income ofc
Not a lawyer, just someone who has filed several times using FanDuel/DraftKings tax information for DFS
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