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Tesla unveils Optimus Robots

Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:02 am
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
2005 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:02 am
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Please discuss how fricked we all are.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38319 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:05 am to
I actually didn't see that much improvement. If you watch the close up videos it appears that the robots are being controlled remotely as opposed to this being AI.

The robotaxi could change everything though. Most people in cities would have no use for a car.
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
2005 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:21 am to
It's only a matter of time, imo. AI advances will cause improvements to these machines rapidly. I think by 2050 it could replace all physical human jobs. Maybe sooner.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38319 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:51 am to
probably true.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87864 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:55 am to
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The robotaxi could change everything though


Is this the option to have your own telsa be used as a taxi when you are at work?

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55657 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:59 am to
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AI advances will cause improvements to these machines rapidly. I think by 2050 it could replace all physical human jobs.


It's possible, but if so it may be the worst thing to happen to humanity.

Most people aren't built to be productive without some sort of driving force (hunger, for example). For every employee at CERN who sleeps only 4-6 hours a night, and often in their offices, I can match with whole neighborhoods of Clevons.



This delves a bit into the results we see from Calhoun's Universe 25 experiments.

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In the 1962 study, Calhoun described the behavior as follows:

Many (female rats) were unable to carry the pregnancy to full term or to survive delivery of their litters if they did. An even greater number, after successfully giving birth, fell short in their maternal functions. Among the males the behavior disturbances ranged from sexual deviation to cannibalism and from frenetic overactivity to a pathological withdrawal from which individuals would emerge to eat, drink and move about only when other members of the community were asleep. The social organization of the animals showed equal disruption.

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The common source of these disturbances became most dramatically apparent in the populations of our first series of three experiments, in which we observed the development of what we called a behavioral sink. The animals would crowd together in greatest number in one of the four interconnecting pens in which the colony was maintained. As many as 60 of the 80 rats in each experimental population would assemble in one pen during periods of feeding. Individual rats would rarely eat except in the company of other rats. As a result extreme population densities developed in the pen adopted for eating, leaving the others with sparse populations.

In the experiments in which the behavioral sink developed, infant mortality ran as high as 96 percent among the most disoriented groups in the population.


Following his earlier experiments with rats, Calhoun later created his "Mortality-Inhibiting Environment for Mice" in 1968: a 101-by-101-inch (260 cm × 260 cm) cage for mice with food and water replenished to support any increase in population, which took his experimental approach to its limits. In his most famous experiment in the series, "Universe 25", population peaked at 2,200 mice even though the habitat was built to tolerate a total population of 4000. Having reached a level of high population density, the mice began exhibiting a variety of abnormal, often destructive, behaviors including refusal to engage in courtship, and females abandoning their young. By the 600th day, the population was on its way to extinction. Though physically able to reproduce, the mice had lost the social skills required to mate.


Calhoun's experiments sought to examine potential problems with over-crowding, blaming "behavioral sink" on the crowding of mice together, it ignores that they still chose to crowd together even when there was still excess room and food available in those other areas. My theory on this has always been that they needed the external influences of predators, weather and scavenging for food, that they simply weren't built to be bored (because what else is there to do if you're a mouse and all your needs are met). I think humans aren't all that different, that after a few generations of a population living in a "human utopia", such a population would similarly fail (maybe not in the exact same manner nor timeframe, but similar enough to draw parallels). We can see this, to a limited extent, to the point there's even an adage about it: "the first generation makes it, the second generation spends it, and the third generation blows it."

The complexity of human emotion, the ability to reason and the ability to change can obfuscate it enough that it's not a hard and fast rule but it happens often enough to be noticeable.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2941 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:06 am to
They were Celons.

Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47346 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:35 am to
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I think by 2050 it could replace all physical human jobs.


A lot of jobs could have been replaced by specialized robots for many years now. And if you look up and down manufacturing lines it has occurred.

However certain jobs are just not cost effective, humans are still too cheap.

We are still a long way from what is presented in this video about being a true assistant.

He didn't really show anything new,
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18267 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:48 am to
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They were Celons.

-10 Cylons
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18267 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:48 am to
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They were Celons.

-10 They were Cylons
Posted by LSUSLU106
Member since Mar 2015
659 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:48 am to
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Is this the option to have your own telsa be used as a taxi when you are at work?


Yes you can have your own fleet
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 8:50 am
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