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Tax Advice Professional Question

Posted on 5/21/25 at 11:44 am
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58635 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 11:44 am
I have recently retired (pre-65) and have had a few questions regarding things like income, 401K withdrawal, HSA, etc. going forward.

My question is, who do I need to consult about all of these questions (tax attorney, tax accountant, financial planner, other)?
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 11:46 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89930 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:10 pm to
If you’re looking for tax optimized withdrawal strategies, but don’t want to pay for any investment advice, find a pay for plan CFP.

In my experience CPAs are wired to be too short sighted and care far more about immediate tax savings/low taxes rather than total tax savings over time.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37649 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:24 pm to
Unless it was an unexpected retirement this research should have been done already.

There is a wealth of information online regarding your questions. Do you have a pension or are you taking SS on the early side? More information would help.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58635 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 6:21 pm to
My retirement was relatively short notice, but not unplanned. My company recently changed a policy to let us keep hospitalization post retirement at the same cost. So basically, I turned 59 1/2 and decided to crunch some numbers which came out favorably.

I will self fund my retirement with my 401K until 65 and then draw pension. Full retirement age for me is 67, so that is when I will draw social security.

I don’t have a CFP, as I don’t think the $20K - $50K per year would nearly be worth the price. I have done very well with my investments through the years.

I have read pretty extensively online, but have periodically found things there that I know aren’t true. As a result, I want a professional that I can occasionally consult when I have questions. As I see it, my biggest risk would be making a mistake regarding taxes.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37649 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:43 pm to
I’ve done a ton of research about tax implications in retirement. There’s a lot to take in. A big part of it is what state you end up in and the tax implications there. Federal is going to be federal but you can plan to minimize it. I agree with you about the cost of a CFP.

Enjoy your retirement!
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58635 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

A big part of it is what state you end up in and the tax implications there


Luckily, Mississippi just voted to eliminate the state income tax!

Coupled with moderate property tax makes me likely to stay here.

Thanks
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
18546 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:58 am to
quote:

Full retirement age for me is 67, so that is when I will draw social security.


Look at some tables.
If you live to be 77 or more, your way is the best.
If you die earlier, taking SS at 62 is best.

I don’t need the money to live on so I’m taking at 62 and investing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89930 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:06 am to
quote:

I don’t have a CFP, as I don’t think the $20K - $50K per year would nearly be worth the price. I have done very well with my investments through the years.


You don’t have to pay for the investment guidance. You can pay $3-5k depending on the plan and get something to follow for a few years at a time. You can never pay again if you don’t think it’s worth it.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89930 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:09 am to
quote:

Look at some tables. If you live to be 77 or more, your way is the best. If you die earlier, taking SS at 62 is best. I don’t need the money to live on so I’m taking at 62 and investing.


taking early when you don’t need the money is more often than not a bad decision unless your health is a problem. The guaranteed growth on SS payments is very difficult to clear with certainty in investments over the relatively small time frame.

Good luck.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30672 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Luckily, Mississippi just voted to eliminate the state income tax!


Not happening anytime soon, if ever
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13929 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:17 am to
quote:

In my experience CPAs are wired to be too short sighted and care far more about immediate tax savings/low taxes rather than total tax savings over time.

That’s because thats what most clients demand. Plus fluidity of tax legislation steers professionals that way.

Edit: OP, if your main concern is tax, consult a CPA. Preferably one that also does financial planning/wealth management.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 11:21 am
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
18546 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

taking early when you don’t need the money is more often than not a bad decision unless your health is a problem. The guaranteed growth on SS payments is very difficult to clear with certainty in investments over the relatively small time frame.



I don’t think I have the best actuarial odds of living to be 80.
I am “healthy”, but I have had open heart surgery so I’m not low risk for cardiovascular events.

I am retired and still invest actively. I have a military pension and a state pension. I also have substantial retirement account balances after maxing everything I could for my entire career. The wife did as well. We also have a nice brokerage nest egg.

So speaking for me specifically, I’ll be taking it at 62.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89930 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

don’t think I have the best actuarial odds of living to be 80. I am “healthy”, but I have had open heart surgery so I’m not low risk for cardiovascular events.


Gotcha. Everyone is different for sure.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20124 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

taking early when you don’t need the money is more often than not a bad decision unless your health is a problem.


I’m thinking that if I take SS at 62, I can delay withdrawing (at least as much) from my 401k and let it grow (hopefully) tax deferred for longer.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2669 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:47 pm to
On other hand, wait too long to draw down traditional retirement accounts and you face RMDs, more tax on SS, IRMAA, and widow penalty (single tax rate on our combined RMDs plus pension and SS would be higher) I intend to convert as much as I can to Roth during early retirement years before drawing SS. There's a few software/app solutions that will model/suggest optimized withdrawal strategies but I havent decided which to try. I've also considered a fee only financial advisor but not sure how to choose a good one familiar w tax optimized withdrawal strategies.
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