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re: Switching majors... What do yall think about a ISDS+ internal audit minor?

Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:31 pm to
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will have the 150 hrs covered by the time I graduate.


Will you have accounting hours?

CIA is easier and opens more doors than it should.

CISA is important for IT audit side
Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:35 pm to
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. I've heard about how accounting will be obsolete because computers will take it over & its incredibly boring 


People with ISDS and Accounting knowledge will be paid to make it obosolete. They will get paid well. Also from audit perspective there will still be how do we machine is right. iT-Accounting Education is well positioned
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:36 pm to
my only concern would be boredom. make sure you love this stuff before you make yourself miserable doing something you hate
Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:38 pm to
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Not a hot woman just a woman ?



In IT they are all hot so few lol.


In a corporate setting HR people will due to hire you to have diversity. In typical male.dominated function
Posted by LSUAfro
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:52 pm to
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I've heard about how accounting will be obsolete because computers will take it over & its incredibly boring with no reward. Any thoughts on that?

I've done research and work with companies that are doing the AI work to automate some of the accounting functions that could be taken over by automation. We're quite a bit a way in eliminating the most simplistic accounting functions that offers a real solution to eliminating accounting clerical jobs. We're no where near eliminating thought provoking accounting positions from my experience.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:56 pm to
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I've done research and work with companies that are doing the AI work to automate some of the accounting functions that could be taken over by automation. We're quite a bit a way in eliminating the most simplistic accounting functions that offers a real solution to eliminating accounting clerical jobs. We're no where near eliminating thought provoking accounting positions from my experience.


I work at a fortune 200 company and our reliance on what I can do in excel is mind blowing
Posted by MStant1
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 12:27 am to
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Not a hot woman just a woman


Not what I meant. Large firms are severely lacking in diversity, and making sure there are more women is a priority.
Posted by m0cha21
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:42 am to
I'll 150 hours bc I'm switching majors. My other credit hours are nursing prereqs.

Posted by m0cha21
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:45 am to
I think I can find my niche with ISDS, maybe not the acct side of it. Most exciting thing to do with ISDS in your opinion?
Posted by m0cha21
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:48 am to
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Not what I meant. Large firms are severly lackig in diversity, and makig sure there are more women is a priority.


Just joking around, but it is good to know they look for diversity!
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:40 am to
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Most exciting thing to do with ISDS in your opinion?

the parts of my job I love involve heavily working with a business unit to align tools, process, and people for efficiency. I do a lot of our solutioning on the platforms we sell and use.


parts I find boring: system admin work, googling sys configs for people, meetings where no one understands what decisions even need to be made

if you want to get ahead your focus should be on how do I automate everything I do. every year i get a position change because something I did last year I automate.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:50 am to
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I'll 150 hours bc I'm switching majors. My other credit hours are nursing prereqs. 



Back in the day you needed a certain amount of accounting credits aloo with 150 hours.

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:51 am to
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the parts of my job I love involve heavily working with a business unit to align tools, process, and people for efficiency. I do a lot of our solutioning on the platforms we sell and use. 



This is what we deseperately need from our IT business partners

They bridge what I tell them as a business need and translate it to IT for programmers. It is almost like project manager
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 3:04 pm to
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This is what we deseperately need from our IT business partners

They bridge what I tell them as a business need and translate it to IT for programmers. It is almost like project manager

yeah it's not an easy skillset to build and IBM employs most of the best in industry at it.

my belief is that I have to understand the business need fully in order to give you what you need not just what you want.

most of the time people say they want a field or some small change without understanding everything that needs to be considered to really help from reporting, automation, and implementation standpoint. it's very similar skillset to an actual architect with different technical knowledge requirements.
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:21 pm to
I got an ISDS degree from LSU but had no desire to work with computers after I graduated. Make sure you want to sit behind a desk for hours on end and work with people that lack interpersonal skills.
A degree in Internal Audit from LSU would afford you many more opportunities...and the CIA program offers many internship opportunities.

Another thing to consider is Info. Systems degrees are not as nearly desirable as Computer Science degrees. Not even close.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 9:28 pm
Posted by m0cha21
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2018
14 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:12 pm to
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Make sure you want to sit behind a desk for hours on end and work with people that lack interpersonal skills.

And the IA prog wouldn't get me the same thing?

And if you dont mind me asking what did you end up doing instead? Did you use your ISDS degree at all?
Thank you!
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:41 am to
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Not what I meant. Large firms are severely lacking in diversity, and making sure there are more women is a priority.


We've hired three clearly under qualified people in the last year in the name of diversity. I'm far from anto diversity, but two were interns who clearly had near 0 accounting knowledge and we gave them offers anyway.
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:45 am to
I didn't use my ISDS major. It did prepare me for the jobs I've had in the past 18 years, but I'm a people person and enjoy being out and about. IA requires a lot of screen time but it also involes personal interaction and different levels of complex investigation....depending on the industry you choose.

I've worked several different business fields in the last 18 years and have had success in all if them. Some of that may be attributed to what I learned getting my ISDS degree but I think the DS part has been most beneficial.

I know nothing about but I would advise you to pursue a degree that will allow you to get experience straight out of college and then branch off from a few years later in case you get burnt out. IS degrees are a dime a dozen. If you love computers and its a passion then comp science is the only way to go. The CIA program had an amazing rep when I was at LSU and likely does now. If you can get in do it.

Best of luck and study hard...you can play later.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32323 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:30 am to
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I'll 150 hours bc I'm switching majors. My other credit hours are nursing prereqs.


Have you considered ISDS with a concentration in Healthcare?
Posted by m0cha21
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2018
14 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:27 pm to
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concentration in Healthcare


No, I have not. Thank you
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