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Successfully challenging an appraisal?
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:43 am
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:43 am
Has anyone here successfully challenged an appraisal on a home? I have an appraisal that came in lower than the original contract price in which the appraiser stood firm in his valuation so we went with it and renegotiated the contract price. Well the underwriter requested an additional comp. It came in plus the appraiser adjust the bathroom count on one of the comps from 2.5 to 3.5 therefore leading to an additional reduction in the appraisal. The list agent is none to pleased. Is it worth the time and effort to fight?
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:45 am to BayouBengal
They are protecting the banks interests, not yours. How do you know what it's worth?
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:47 am to I Love Bama
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They are protecting the banks interests, not yours. How do you know what it's worth?
I don't, I'm not an appraiser. It's just if the listing agent continues to be headstrong about it, there won't be a closing on time. I was curious as to how firm they typically are.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 10:55 am to BayouBengal
Challenging an appraisal is a bitch.. I was successful after calling the appraiser on my own and talking to him about what I thought was wrong with the appraisal.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:05 am to BayouBengal
Are you buying and selling a house? Looks like a buy. If the appraisal came in lower that helps you. I had a similiar experience. We built our house and bought it from a commercial developer. It was appraised lower then the original contract price. They were pissed. I was happy and wasn't going to pay more(neither was the bank haha). The listing agent/owner finally agreed to the appraised value after a week. If they want the house sold they will agree.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:10 am to AUtigerNOLA
I'm the buyer. And yes it looks like it's helping me. But the listing agent is threatening a fight. Frankly I just want to get the deal closed. The sellers are in a tough spot right now, they're moving today. Their agent seems like the type that would fight the appraisal but I have no idea about the sellers. I'm not complaining about having money knocked off. I just wanted a feeling for how easy/tough it is to fight to get an idea of what the listing agent will do.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:13 am to BayouBengal
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But the listing agent is threatening a fight
Listing agent cant do shite... If the seller agrees to sell you the house at the appraised amount, tough titties.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:15 am to Lsut81
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Listing agent cant do shite... If the seller agrees to sell you the house at the appraised amount, tough titties.
That's what I'm hoping for is for them to say look let's get it done. Yeah it sucks, but we're in a tough spot. My landlord is very flexible right now so I'm in a good spot.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:21 am to BayouBengal
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But the listing agent is threatening a fight.
I believe the apprasial will be in the system regardless of what they want to do. So any other buyer would see this if your deal falls through. This means the house will sit on the market longer. They would have to get another apprasial, but still the original apprasial will be on the MLS system.
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I just wanted a feeling for how easy/tough it is to fight to get an idea of what the listing agent will do.
In my case, they came down to the apprasied value. It took them a week or so though to get over it and just make a deal. But they were saying the same things you are. They risk giving up a buyer and having the house sit on the market longer if they dont close the deal with you IMO.
This post was edited on 5/30/13 at 11:32 am
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:33 am to AUtigerNOLA
I had 6 acres appraised last week , how long does it usually take to get a price.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:44 am to TIGRLEE
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I had 6 acres appraised last week , how long does it usually take to get a price.
It took a couple of days for mine. This was for a home.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 11:45 am to BayouBengal
Do it all the time if you've got the comps to warrant.
Edit: If you are buyer, tell agent to notify agent you can pay up to the penny of appraised value, have your agent amend contract price, give the until COB today to accept. No other terms need be changed.
Edit: If you are buyer, tell agent to notify agent you can pay up to the penny of appraised value, have your agent amend contract price, give the until COB today to accept. No other terms need be changed.
This post was edited on 5/30/13 at 11:49 am
Posted on 5/30/13 at 12:16 pm to ItNeverRains
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Edit: If you are buyer, tell agent to notify agent you can pay up to the penny of appraised value, have your agent amend contract price, give the until COB today to accept. No other terms need be changed.
Already been done. Should know this afternoon. I signed an amended contract with the new lower appraisal value as the sales price.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 12:20 pm to ItNeverRains
I'm a little confused. If appraisal comes in lower, the Bank will only allow a certain percentage of the value. The rate, underwriting, etc. for this loan are applied to this property, so unless the value drops, the bank will only allow a certain amount. This leaves you with two options:
1. Lower sale price, however, they owners may owe more than what the appraisal says it is worth. Also, the owner's purchase of a new home may have been dependant on the sale of this property and they were approved with a certain percentage down and the lower appraisal makes them ineligible. The realtor probably has both deals.
2. You pay the difference, or ask your realtor to pay the difference. She is the one trying to get you to buy a house above market value.
My suggestion is walk away from the home and the realtor, neither seem to be worth what they are charging.
Sidenote: the reason the underwriter asked for additional comps was because the appraisal was funky, meaning if it was just below value, they usually go with the lower value because it kills the deal. If they asked for more comps, the guy was trying to stretch to get the lower value. Walk away.
1. Lower sale price, however, they owners may owe more than what the appraisal says it is worth. Also, the owner's purchase of a new home may have been dependant on the sale of this property and they were approved with a certain percentage down and the lower appraisal makes them ineligible. The realtor probably has both deals.
2. You pay the difference, or ask your realtor to pay the difference. She is the one trying to get you to buy a house above market value.
My suggestion is walk away from the home and the realtor, neither seem to be worth what they are charging.
Sidenote: the reason the underwriter asked for additional comps was because the appraisal was funky, meaning if it was just below value, they usually go with the lower value because it kills the deal. If they asked for more comps, the guy was trying to stretch to get the lower value. Walk away.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 12:53 pm to BayouBengal
You really need to ask yourself are you paying too much for the house.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 1:00 pm to BayouBengal
LSU Russian said it best are you paying to much for this house. If an underwriter ask for an additional comp it for a reason. the listing agent is taking a hit in paycheck with lower value and it makes her/him look bad becuase they told the seller what the house would appraise for. hold tight and make them lower the sale price
Posted on 5/30/13 at 1:11 pm to BayouBengal
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Is it worth the time and effort to fight?
who is the lender? Chances are slim you'd win.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 1:12 pm to LSURussian
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You really need to ask yourself are you paying too much for the house.
appraisals are pretty shitty ways of determing worth of a house and the value you are getting with a particular house. Comps are seldom good comps.
Posted on 5/30/13 at 1:18 pm to hawkeye007
Exactly. My intial reaction with the low apprasial was that they were asking too much for the house in the first place and it pissed me off. I was glad the appraiser did his job correctly. I would of walked away if the seller did not agree to the appraised value. We just got our market value of the home in the mail from the county tax office and its a little more than what we paid for it, which makes us feel a lot better.
This post was edited on 5/30/13 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 5/30/13 at 4:08 pm to AUtigerNOLA
I was able to contest the apprasial of my house. The house was FSBO in Southdowns, when the sign went up i called that day, heard the price and made the deal. I was the buyer (paid for the appriasal) so it was for my lending company and me only (FSBO). When my house was apprasied, it was 25K above list price, which I expected. However, I still thought the price was low, I found about 10 to 15 errors in the apprasial - wrong information about foundation, siding, bathrooms, etc. I called the appraiser, talked to him about the errors and his comps. He 'reconsidered' his first try and appraised it at 45K above list. Just have to work with them, its all subjective.
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