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re: Stocks vs Real Estate to generate wealth and passive income
Posted on 9/24/18 at 8:29 pm to BullredsRus
Posted on 9/24/18 at 8:29 pm to BullredsRus
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don’t rely on making any money off them in near term
so you are not even cash flowing? that IS making money.
if not you bought wrong.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 8:50 pm to Fat Bastard
Either you didn’t read it all or maybe I’m not good at explaining what I’m trying to say. I do make money off of them. I net 1500 a month and that’s after paying an extra 600 towards principal every month. I just don’t use it. I don’t touch it. It sits in an account to pay for shite that goes wrong and if/when that account gets high enough I will pay a mortgage or two off extra early.
I make money, just don’t spend it or even count on it. That was point, it’s more like retirement for me so I don’t touch it. Just like I don’t touch or count on my 401K at the moment either. But to each his own. It’s what works for me.
I make money, just don’t spend it or even count on it. That was point, it’s more like retirement for me so I don’t touch it. Just like I don’t touch or count on my 401K at the moment either. But to each his own. It’s what works for me.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:34 pm to Fat Bastard
He’s saying he reinvests (or sets aside) his cash flow
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:32 pm to jimbeam
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He’s saying he reinvests (or sets aside) his cash flow
gotcha. so i am right. he is cash flowing. he just means he uses THAT to pay down notes since he does not need cash now. ok that makes sense.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:52 pm to plaric
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he wife and I make about 150k worth of W2 and probably another 75k before taxes from my consulting and side businesses.
I would recommend investing in the side business (either your time or money in hiring someone). Why start a second side business (real estate) when you have a money maker already? For me (and probably you) working an couple of hours/week in your area of expertise would generate much more income than being a landlord.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 7:54 am to plaric
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I wanted to get your opinions on what would be the best return possibility and why
I think for your average Joe (i.e. not most of this board) the largest upside of real estate is the relative illiquidity of it. People tend to feel far more married to property they buy than stocks, thus forcing them to leave their investment in the market to weather the ups and downs rather than freaking out and pulling out every time there’s even a possibility of a dip. As people keep saying: time in the market is far better than timing the market.
For the more disciplined crowd it’s a more difficult decision, one that is highly dependent on your local RE markets’ maturities and opportunities. For the discerning connoisseur there are myriad development possibilities (commercial, residential, recreational, etc.) that with the right connections and luck can be the deal of a lifetime.
Several fortunes were made off of WRP when that program first came about. Developing lake lots has been a consistent market beater, as well. Farmland was a great ride a few years ago but is now in the throes of correction (a process only to be exasperated by these tariffs).
I personally like and prefer real estate because I have far more control over how my investment performs. If I buy stock in a company I’m merely along for the ride. Some people like that. They don’t want an investment that has to be managed constantly, and I respect that. I’m just too hands-on to not, though.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:58 am to Decisions
"I think for your average Joe (i.e. not most of this board) the largest upside of real estate is the relative illiquidity of it."
I think this is true. Most think the other way around.
"I personally like and prefer real estate because I have far more control over how my investment performs"
Also agree with this. You obviously understand the game.
I think this is true. Most think the other way around.
"I personally like and prefer real estate because I have far more control over how my investment performs"
Also agree with this. You obviously understand the game.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 2:26 pm to plaric
Why not both?
Like others have mentioned a couple of REITs would be my suggestion. If you're looking for more liquidity I'd check out Realty Income (O) or National Retail Properties (NNN). Both are monthly paying dividend stocks that seem to have relatively safe payout ratios.
My personal suggestions would be Digital Realty, which is a REIT focused on Data Base storage, American Tower, which is a REIT focused on cell towers, and my personal favorite Innovative Industrial Properties. They are a new company (IPO in 2016) that focuses on acquiring, and leasing, warehouses specifically geared toward the marijuana industry. I personally think the industry will boom but I'm not a risky individual when it comes to investing so I prefer to have some type of buffer. Insert IIPR. They pay a quarterly dividend and are (obviously) set up as a REIT so they are required to pay some of their funds from ops to shareholders. Not only this, the company has raised their dividend from 10c (at IPO) to 25c, and recently to 40c per share per quarter. The dividend growth rate is unsustainable but I wouldn't be surprised to see that number be around 60c per share in the next 3 years or so.
Like others have mentioned a couple of REITs would be my suggestion. If you're looking for more liquidity I'd check out Realty Income (O) or National Retail Properties (NNN). Both are monthly paying dividend stocks that seem to have relatively safe payout ratios.
My personal suggestions would be Digital Realty, which is a REIT focused on Data Base storage, American Tower, which is a REIT focused on cell towers, and my personal favorite Innovative Industrial Properties. They are a new company (IPO in 2016) that focuses on acquiring, and leasing, warehouses specifically geared toward the marijuana industry. I personally think the industry will boom but I'm not a risky individual when it comes to investing so I prefer to have some type of buffer. Insert IIPR. They pay a quarterly dividend and are (obviously) set up as a REIT so they are required to pay some of their funds from ops to shareholders. Not only this, the company has raised their dividend from 10c (at IPO) to 25c, and recently to 40c per share per quarter. The dividend growth rate is unsustainable but I wouldn't be surprised to see that number be around 60c per share in the next 3 years or so.
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