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re: Sign on bonuses with no matching raise the next year
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:16 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:16 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:troll better bro.
Why do you think you’re entitled to your sign on bonus every year?
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:18 pm to anc
quote:That's great bro. I'm glad you feel like you're better than me.
If I were your boss and I knew you felt like this, you would be looking for a new job.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:29 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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DUDE you also belittled me before that advice.
Where did I belittle you?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:35 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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troll better bro
That’s a legit question to your original post. If you think your compensation in year 2 should be at a minimum equal to year 1, you should easily be able to explain why you think you’re entitled to your signing bonus each year.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:38 pm to barry
Don't waste your time; he wasn't looking for advice or constructive criticism.
Even if he was to get the 7% pay raise for this year, he would be back here next year bitching if they only gave him a 3% raise.
Even if he was to get the 7% pay raise for this year, he would be back here next year bitching if they only gave him a 3% raise.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:44 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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That’s a legit question to your original post.
No it's not. You're trolling.
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If you think your compensation in year 2 should be at a minimum equal to year 1, you should easily be able to explain why you think you’re entitled to your signing bonus each year.
Yup trolling to the max. If you're trying to be taken seriously think critically about what you're saying and rephrase the question.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:46 pm to barry
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Where did I belittle you?
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thirdly, you sound extremely whiny
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:48 pm to HogFanfromHTown
It really shouldn’t be this hard, except that you’re just trying to have a woe is me post.
I’ll play though.
Why do you think you’re entitled to a year 2 salary that is year 1 salary + signing bonus?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:48 pm to rowbear1922
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Even if he was to get the 7% pay raise for this year, he would be back here next year bitching if they only gave him a 3% raise.
Completley false. I'd be making just as much and then more money than I previously did in that scenario. I would definitley be satisfied with that.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:53 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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It really shouldn’t be this hard, except that you’re just trying to have a woe is me post.
Don't act like you didn't phrase it that way intentionally to make me sound ridiculous. You're trying to have a "I'm smarter than you and you're entitled post"
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Why do you think you’re entitled to a year 2 salary that is year 1 salary + signing bonus?
I don't think I'm entitled to a damn thing. I think I've EARNED to be paid more by providing savings over 4x what I'm being paid and I was given an exemplary performance review so obviously they agree I'm doing a great job. I believe I've earned the pay.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:54 pm to HogFanfromHTown
Are you right out of undergrad? Context on your situation would be helpful.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:55 pm to barry
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barry
One of the better posters on this board. His original post is solid.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:56 pm to lynxcat
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Are you right out of undergrad?
Yes......this is quite obvious from the OP.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:58 pm to HogFanfromHTown
If you want to earn a proportional amount to what you saved the company, then you need to be a founder who has his invested capital at risk. Corporate jobs are not going to reward you compensation aligned to your overall enterprise value creation.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:59 pm to HogFanfromHTown
Out of college could be either undergraduate or graduate degree. You were not specific.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:00 pm to lynxcat
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Corporate jobs are not going to reward you compensation aligned to your overall enterprise value creation.
That's definitley not true at all.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:01 pm to lynxcat
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Out of college could be either undergraduate or graduate degree. You were not specific.
No it's not. No one who's talking about after their postgraduate degree would phrase it that way.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:07 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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Completley false. I'd be making just as much and then more money than I previously did in that scenario. I would definitley be satisfied with that.
You would complain that you saved more money over the last year than your first yet they are only increasing your pay by 3% instead of 7%. You would be back here saying you "earned" that 7% increase.
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I don't think I'm entitled to a damn thing. I think I've EARNED to be paid more by providing savings over 4x what I'm being paid and I was given an exemplary performance review so obviously they agree I'm doing a great job. I believe I've earned the pay.
And you are being paid more, 3% more than you base last year. If people travel a lot for work and get per diem, should they bitch if the next year they do not travel as much so their overall pay for the year is less than the previous?
so your salary was $50k, which means you had a $3500 sign-on bonus. So you believe you are OWED an additional $76.92 (7% raise - the 3% raise) a check before tax? Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:15 pm to lynxcat
I’m kind of shocked at how annoyed you are over what likely amounts to a couple thousand dollars.
Let’s assume you started at $60,000 which is probably slightly on the high end.
7% is $4,200 which was a sign-on bonus.
3% raise means you are now paid $61,800. A 7% raise would have meant your salary would have been $64,200. The delta is $2,400 in compensation that is making you jaded towards your role.
$2,400 after taxes is around $1,800 net over 24 pay periods is $75/pay period. This is some immaterial bullshite in the span of a career. My $0.02.
Let’s assume you started at $60,000 which is probably slightly on the high end.
7% is $4,200 which was a sign-on bonus.
3% raise means you are now paid $61,800. A 7% raise would have meant your salary would have been $64,200. The delta is $2,400 in compensation that is making you jaded towards your role.
$2,400 after taxes is around $1,800 net over 24 pay periods is $75/pay period. This is some immaterial bullshite in the span of a career. My $0.02.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:15 pm to rowbear1922
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You would complain that you saved more money over the last year than your first yet they are only increasing your pay by 3% instead of 7%. You would be back here saying you "earned" that 7% increase.
Not at all. Your assumptions are wrong. Deal with it.
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If people travel a lot for work and get per diem, should they bitch if the next year they do not travel as much so their overall pay for the year is less than the previous?
This is too general of a question. Why are they traveling? What do they do? Do they do a different function when they're traveling? I have no idea what kind of value this hypothetical person is providing so there's no right way to answer that question.
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So you believe you are OWED an additional $76.92 (7% raise - the 3% raise) a check before tax?
No I believe I have EARNED that pay.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 9:16 pm
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