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re: Retirement account millionaires rise at Fidelity

Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3230 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 10:43 pm to
The numbers are low not because poorer people don’t participate they are low because the damn government limits what you can defer.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:37 am to
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absofrickinglutely! this baord is an ANOMALY! we are all here in the 1 to 10 percent. most people do not have jack shite and live paycheck to paycheck and struggle.


I work with some people who make $120-180K and still have very little saved.

They're in the 40-55 year age range. Most have kids in college and spoil them by spending way more than they should on them. They also go on exotic vacations every year.

And, they can't understand why they are living paycheck to paycheck and have very little saved in their 401K plans.

I tried to explain to one friend that his daughter didn't need a different $500 dress and $200 pair of shoes for every destination sorority/fraternity formal she attends. His answer to me was, "Yeah right - tell her that!"

He actually told me that once his kids get out of college that he'll be able to start contributing more in his 401K. I told him that grad school will be next. Then they'll get out making a measly salary and he'll have to help them with their rent payments. By that time he'll be in his 60's and will have to work until he's 75 (or dead) just for the hope of maybe retiring one day.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:41 am to
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He actually told me that once his kids get out of college that he'll be able to start contributing more in his 401K. I told him that grad school will be next. Then they'll get out making a measly salary and he'll have to help them with their rent payments. By that time he'll be in his 60's and will have to work until he's 75 (or dead) just for the hope of maybe retiring one day.

And, he'll likely end up with ungrateful children who will refuse to help him out or consider sharing housing with him because "he didn't save enough, so he's not my problem" as demonstrated by multiple posters on this board in other threads. Funny how the values that you teach your children through your daily demostrated behaviors will be the strongest influences on their behaviors.
Posted by Ragnar Danneskjold
North of you
Member since Dec 2015
412 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:53 am to
Yeah. Seeing the kinda money people waste all but keeps me awake at night.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:05 am to
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And, he'll likely end up with ungrateful children who will refuse to help him out or consider sharing housing with him because "he didn't save enough, so he's not my problem" as demonstrated by multiple posters on this board in other threads



I read an article recently that said that many millennials view their potential inheritance as their retirement plan.

I'm just shy of 50. If I get anything when my parents die it will definitely be something short of $100K (basically about 1/2 the value of their home) - hardly enough for retirement. But, I can definitely see the next generation thinking that they will get something. They've been coddled from birth and received participation trophies for everything they've ever done. So, why shouldn't they expect to retire on their parents' money. Add the fact that most of us have earned and saved more than our parents and I wonder if they are correct in their assumptions.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3702 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:23 pm to
I was about 45 when the hospital I worked at started 403-B.I did max(15%) from day 1.Half of my co-workers didn’t participate at all,not even 4% mininmum to get the match.I obviously didn’t reach a million $ but I had other IRA’s and separate brokerage account.
Lot of my coworkers used to tease me about how tight I was but I’ve been retired several years and they’re still working.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38780 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 6:04 pm to
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20-29: $11,800
30-39: $42,400
40-49: $102,700
50-59: $174,100
60-69: $195,500

this doesnt surprise me at all.
i'm 52 years old and i JUST now am finally debt-free and in my prime earning years. child has flown the coop and i dont have major expenses anymore

obviously i'd rather this was the case ten years ago, but you play the hand you are dealt. i have 350,000 in retirement accounts, the equity in my house and the cash value of my business. i dont know how much money i will need to retire but i have a good idea of how much i will have.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 6:54 pm to
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this doesnt surprise me at all. i'm 52 years old and i JUST now am finally debt-free and in my prime earning years. child has flown the coop and i dont have major expenses anymore

obviously i'd rather this was the case ten years ago, but you play the hand you are dealt. i have 350,000 in retirement accounts, the equity in my house and the cash value of my business. i dont know how much money i will need to retire but i have a good idea of how much i will have.


I would not be able to sleep at night with financials that looked like that. Hope it works out for you.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38780 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:45 pm to
I was bored waiting for that storm in BR to pass so i scrolled thru your post history on this board. A piece of advice from an elder (and Alexander Pope)...a little learning is a dangerous thing
Posted by LSUisBetterthanU
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
766 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 6:21 am to
What’s even more crazy is that all 196,000 post on Tigerdroppings.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 6:32 am to
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A piece of advice from an elder (and Alexander Pope)...a little learning is a dangerous thing


What exactly do I need to learn?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38780 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 10:49 am to
the opportunities for you to learn appear to be limitless
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