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QQQ vs SPY ETF's

Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:26 pm
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16027 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:26 pm
If you had 10k to invest which would you go with? I plan on holding for at least 20 years when retirement comes around.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 9:27 pm
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12495 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:43 pm to
I would go with QQQ for the long haul.

I got in in 2008-2009 and have had 1000% return.

My career was in technology and the future is too.
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Past performance is no guarantee of future results, but QQQ has historically outperformed the S&P 500 index, especially for long-term returns. The 10- and 15-year returns for QQQ are 19.8% and 12.8%, respectively. These returns are significantly higher than those of the S&P 500, which are 15.4% and 9.1%, respectively.

This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 1:37 pm
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9349 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:55 pm to
None of the above...

20 years?

Gimme VOO or VTI...
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:58 pm to
RSP
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16027 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:50 pm to
What are some great ETF's that are not tech based? I'm trying to diversify for long term.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25139 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:51 pm to
SCHB is a total stock market. Hard to get more diversified than that...
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16027 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:02 pm to
Was looking at this one: DIA. Very diverse.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11955 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:44 pm to
You might as well take on the extra beta because it's the same trade
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16027 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

You might as well take on the extra beta because it's the same trade


Can you explain ? sorry i'm new to not owning just regular stocks. i currently own SPY and and ARKK.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
46897 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 2:04 pm to
FXAIX has lower fees than SPY for the same thing
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11955 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 2:21 pm to
You are essentially taking on the same risks owning SPY and QQQ. They are both heavily concentrated in the same names and the S&P is somewhere close to 20-25% zombie companies which means they can't service debts with free cash flow (think US Government deficit spending). The two are so correlated that the excess risk will payoff more to the upside and downside risk is virtually the same due to government intervention.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16027 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 2:29 pm to
Oh i agree on the QQQ vs SPY. i ended up going with just SPY.Thats why i asked about DIA since it seems to be more away from the big companies in tech.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 2:37 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11955 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 4:54 pm to
My bad. Beta is just sensitivity to the broader market returns. So the higher beta names over perform in bull markets and underperform in bear markets. Which is what you're seeing with ARKK. That portfolio is like holding 80 year bonds
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16300 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 9:10 pm to
I’d do both

50/50
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 10:10 am to
I’d consider a value ETF. While value has sucked wind relative to growth over the last cycle, it still outperforms over the long term and I think is poised to reign supreme again now with growth being so overvalued.

And if I wanted to get S&P exposure, I’d consider an equal weighted ETF to avoid the concentration risk in the cap weighted index.
This post was edited on 5/16/21 at 12:56 pm
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