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re: PPP 2nd Round Update 1/14/21

Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:05 pm to
Did you get a PPP loan last year? If not you don’t have to prove a 25% revenue loss in a quarter to get the loan. You’d be a first time draw borrower.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3433 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:16 pm to
What about pass through entities? The LLC took a 30% hit in a quarter, but the gross receipts for the individual only dropped 22%.
Posted by VanJoe
Member since May 2020
34 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:06 am to
Yes...We did receive PPP loan last year. Will have to do some digging. Thanks
Posted by Spock
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
1176 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Correct. Only revenue from business.


VABuckeye - do you have a source on this? We are a healthcare entity and received a significant amount of stimulus through HHS and it would knock us out of the 25% reduction in revenue requirement if we included. Thanks!
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:04 am to
Is there an email address I can send information to? I have the entire document on this round that I can forward to you.
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2834 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:13 am to
I started my company in January 2020. What will I need to provide for the 2nd round of funding?
Posted by LSUlove
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
593 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:28 am to
Is the average monthly payroll for the year of 2020 I am assuming?
Posted by Spock
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
1176 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:29 am to
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:07 pm to
YGM
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 12:07 pm to
We used 2020 payroll divided by 12 times 2.5
Posted by Spock
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
1176 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:26 pm to
Thanks
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
877 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:27 pm to
Has anyone found any good youtube/webcasts on the 2nd Round PPP?
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2834 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

I started my company in January 2020. What will I need to provide for the 2nd round of funding?


Bump on this - Can you provide any guidance Buckeye?
Posted by Nappy
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2005
146 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:40 pm to
See if this link to the new application works.

LINK

This is from the instructions (page 4 of 6)

For all loans, the appropriate reference quarter depends on how long the Applicant has been in operation:
• For all entities other than those satisfying the conditions set forth below, Applicants must demonstrate that gross receipts in any quarter of 2020 were
at least 25% lower than the same quarter of 2019. Alternatively, Applicants may compare annual gross receipts in 2020 with annual gross receipts in
2019; Applicants choosing to use annual gross receipts must enter “Annual” in the 2020 Quarter and Reference Quarter fields and, as required
documentation, must submit copies of annual tax forms substantiating the annual gross receipts reduction.
• For entities not in business during the first and second quarters of 2019 but in operation during the third and fourth quarters of 2019, Applicants must
demonstrate that gross receipts in any quarter of 2020 were at least 25% lower than either the third or fourth quarters of 2019.
• For entities not in business during the first, second, and third quarters of 2019 but in operation during the fourth quarter of 2019, Applicants must
demonstrate that gross receipts in any quarter of 2020 were at least 25% lower than the fourth quarter of 2019.
• For entities not in business during 2019 but in operation on February 15, 2020, Applicants must demonstrate that gross receipts in the second, third, or
fourth quarter of 2020 were at least 25% lower than the first quarter of 2020.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17745 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:00 pm to
can you send that email to me at elmerfudd321@yahoo.com

I have a call with my Banker and i want to be able to have that to reference to, specifically the part about not including PPP, EIDL, HHS grant

thanks, you have been a huge help with all of this
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20650 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

25% loss of revenue in one 2020 quarter compared to the same quarter in 2019 is a requirement. I was told by my banker today that this is a requirement for forgiveness but I went ahead and submitted the documentation anyway so it's there.

What did you submit as proof? My banker suggested the Income Statement from our software would suffice, but I am a little leary that this is all that will be necessary
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17745 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:59 am to
Spock, could you send that email to me?

elmerfudd321@yahoo.com


thanks
Posted by Spock
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
1176 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:20 am to
Sent

I couldn't find anything specific in the language excluding previous CARES act stimulus amounts - only previous PPP Loan forgiveness. Look at the bottom of page 8 of the IFR I attached in the email. It gives a detailed breakout of what is considered "receipts."
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 11:23 am
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17745 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:21 am to
thanks
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:56 pm to
Sorry for the lack of replies in the past day. That beatdown last night is fresh in my mind.
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