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re: OpenAI shutting down Sora, Disney backs out of deal
Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:16 am to SmackoverHawg
Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:16 am to SmackoverHawg
She's very pretty in that episode
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:19 am to SmackoverHawg
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Really? Will have to watch.
15 Million Merits is episode name.
The premise you speak of is very much relatable to that episode.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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She's very pretty in that episode
Her song is in the background of so many episodes as well.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
I more into blondes with blue eyes, but she's kinda mesmerizing. Wood make exception.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 7:28 pm to AaronDeTiger
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AaronDeTiger
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The water is closed loop, boomer.
Waiting for this dipshit to apologize?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:54 pm to DarthRebel
What are you still blabbering about? Why don't you go use some AI and learn about how they are cooling the data centers?
Here you go:
Here you go:
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closed loop water cooling data centers
Closed-loop water cooling is a sustainable thermal management strategy for data centers that recirculates a fixed volume of liquid within a sealed system to remove heat from servers. Unlike traditional evaporative systems that "consume" water by venting it as steam, closed-loop systems recycle the same fluid indefinitely, drastically reducing or even eliminating daily water consumption.
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are most ai data centers expected to use closed loop cooling?
Yes, closed-loop liquid cooling is rapidly becoming the standard for new AI-focused data centers. While air cooling once dominated the industry, it is physically unable to manage the extreme heat generated by modern AI chips, such as Nvidia's Blackwell GPUs, which can exceed 1,000 watts per chip
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:30 am to AaronDeTiger
We just need you to understand current reality and not expectations. You are not incorrect in closed-loop being at thing, you are incorrect in trying to say it is the norm.
You made an insult earlier, to be an arse, the problem you were factually wrong with your insult.
According to AI, there is less than 1% of data centers in the USA operating a 100% closed loop system. Maybe we should assume AI is incorrect here and you are right
Would you have facts to back up your claim closed-loop systems are the standard norm across our existing data center infrastructure?
Personal note - I am Gen X
You made an insult earlier, to be an arse, the problem you were factually wrong with your insult.
According to AI, there is less than 1% of data centers in the USA operating a 100% closed loop system. Maybe we should assume AI is incorrect here and you are right
Would you have facts to back up your claim closed-loop systems are the standard norm across our existing data center infrastructure?
Personal note - I am Gen X
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:13 am to DarthRebel
You are conflating boomer data centers with AI data centers. Evaporative cooling is dying because you physically cannot use open-loop on 100kW+ AI racks. Jensen Huang just announced that the Vera Rubin platform is designed for 100% liquid cooling. He explicitly stated that this tech makes traditional evaporative towers obsolete because the chips are so dense they require a closed-loop system.
S&P Global data shows that nearly 60% of operators are already moving to liquid/closed-loop to handle this heat problem, and the Dell’Oro Group confirmed the liquid cooling market doubled in 2025. Investors are pivoting to closed-loop cooling because it’s the only way to keep a $40k GPU from melting.
The "water sucking" era of data centers is the very thing this specific AI hardware is killing off. You can't dismiss expectations when the physics of a 120kW+ chip requires new cooling tech just to function. Every new AI factory breaking ground is closed-loop because they have no other choice. Keep up, Gen X.
Why AI rack densities make liquid cooling non-negotiable
Air cooling remains prevalent, but liquid cooling is gaining momentum
Data Center Liquid Cooling Market to Approach $7 Billion by 2029 as AI Deployments Accelerate, According to Dell’Oro Group
S&P Global data shows that nearly 60% of operators are already moving to liquid/closed-loop to handle this heat problem, and the Dell’Oro Group confirmed the liquid cooling market doubled in 2025. Investors are pivoting to closed-loop cooling because it’s the only way to keep a $40k GPU from melting.
The "water sucking" era of data centers is the very thing this specific AI hardware is killing off. You can't dismiss expectations when the physics of a 120kW+ chip requires new cooling tech just to function. Every new AI factory breaking ground is closed-loop because they have no other choice. Keep up, Gen X.
Why AI rack densities make liquid cooling non-negotiable
Air cooling remains prevalent, but liquid cooling is gaining momentum
Data Center Liquid Cooling Market to Approach $7 Billion by 2029 as AI Deployments Accelerate, According to Dell’Oro Group
quote:Uh, thats exactly what they are building.
A data center is not the same thing as a liquid cooled PC.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 10:33 am
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:06 pm to AaronDeTiger
I have no idea why this is the hill you want to die on?
What you are talking about is not a realized reality yet. Liquid cooled racks has been a thing for some time, doing it at massive AI data center scale is new. They are just trying to pivot to these types of environments now, because of the massive blowback of water consumption in existing data centers.
I am not sure why you are referencing them as "Boomer" data centers Colossus went online in December of 2024 and it uses 3 million gallons a day, which is the amount of a small city.
You are correct in the new push for closed-loop, but once again it is driven by public anger and not magical chip design.
Here is the devil in the details, closed-loop takes more power than open-loop. Going closed-loop shift the water consumption to the power plant level. This is dependent on source of power generation. but across the board on average the water consumption can be expected to increase 2,000 – 240,000 gal/day. That is well under 3,000,000 gal/day for Colossus, but an increase over no data center on the power grid and that would be per data center on grid.
To really get to your Millennial utopian world, you would need the data center to be on nothing but solar/wind, which at that point you could be looking at 2000 gal/day or less. Nuclear energy will take up to 240,000 gal/day and Natural Gas would be 120,000 gal/day
To summarize for you - Current data centers are huge wastes of water. Future data centers are are still wastes of water, just moved further upstream to generate power.
Now, if we do Elon's thing and put data centers in orbit, we can stop arguing probably.
What you are talking about is not a realized reality yet. Liquid cooled racks has been a thing for some time, doing it at massive AI data center scale is new. They are just trying to pivot to these types of environments now, because of the massive blowback of water consumption in existing data centers.
I am not sure why you are referencing them as "Boomer" data centers Colossus went online in December of 2024 and it uses 3 million gallons a day, which is the amount of a small city.
You are correct in the new push for closed-loop, but once again it is driven by public anger and not magical chip design.
Here is the devil in the details, closed-loop takes more power than open-loop. Going closed-loop shift the water consumption to the power plant level. This is dependent on source of power generation. but across the board on average the water consumption can be expected to increase 2,000 – 240,000 gal/day. That is well under 3,000,000 gal/day for Colossus, but an increase over no data center on the power grid and that would be per data center on grid.
To really get to your Millennial utopian world, you would need the data center to be on nothing but solar/wind, which at that point you could be looking at 2000 gal/day or less. Nuclear energy will take up to 240,000 gal/day and Natural Gas would be 120,000 gal/day
To summarize for you - Current data centers are huge wastes of water. Future data centers are are still wastes of water, just moved further upstream to generate power.
Now, if we do Elon's thing and put data centers in orbit, we can stop arguing probably.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:14 pm to AaronDeTiger
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A data center is not the same thing as a liquid cooled PC
Uh, thats exactly what they are building.
Seriously, they are not. Scale, engineering, and goals separate these. Applying your statement to another environment
This
Is the same as this
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:25 pm to DarthRebel
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:44 pm to AaronDeTiger
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Not exactly, remember we started with this
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Data centers sucking up power and water,
The water is closed loop, boomer.
Which was really you trying to be an OT_Lounge arse on the money board.
The current infrastructure of AI data centers is heavy open-loop. You pivoted to new builds are going to be closed loop, which is true. I just added closed-loop still have an upstream impact on water. Which goes back to original statement I made
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Data centers sucking up power and water
Data centers consume energy (you chose not to argue that) and water (direct and indirect).
Data center proliferation has become a negative subject for many communties being impacted by them.
Meta's new Louisiana plant is going to be more water efficient, claiming it will consume the same amount of water the farmland used they purchased to build the data center. Like Colossus, they will be building a waste water treatment plant to use for the outer loop, this is where the heat for the inner closed loop is dumped. This is also where evap will happen and water loss occurs and needs to be replenished.
Looks like this new data center will require 2.5GW of power, which is more than the entire city of New Orleans maybe. It will require 3 new gas plants to be built. Gas plants are going to waste water, so this newest data center in the great state of Louisiana combined with gas plants will lose
2.6 B gal/year to 10.2 B gal/year
Meta’s Louisiana AI complex will waste an amount of water equal to -
17% to 65% of the entire daily water usage of Baton Rouge, LA.
Up to two-thirds of a major U.S. city’s total water consumption evaporated every day
just to run one data center and the fossil-fuel power plants needed to power it.
Ok, where were we again on moving goal posts and how closed loops do not waste water?
Posted on 4/15/26 at 2:17 pm to AaronDeTiger
https://www.hannapub.com/ouachitacitizen/news/local_state_headlines/entergy-pursues-seven-power-plants-for-meta
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Entergy Louisiana announced plans last week to seek permission from the state Public Service Commission (PSC) to build seven new gas power plants to support Meta’s future $27-billion artificial intelligence (AI) data center in Richland Parish.
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Entergy officials announced that Meta planned to fund the construction of seven new power plants that would generate more than 5,200 megawatts of electricity, some 240 miles of new 500 kV transmission lines connecting southern Louisiana to northern Louisiana and Arkansas, upgrade Entergy’s existing nuclear power plants, build up to 2,500 megawatts of solar farms and install batteries to store solar power across three locations to support the data center.
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