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Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:57 am to
those are my thoughts except I may split 50/50 icx/ven. depends on what the graphs look like
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:20 am to
volume seems down across the board. that bodes well; it means the dip isn't a sell-off but just investor timidness. understandable. It'll prolly be like this until something happens to make people want to move more fiat around.

we need a coin to cause serious FOMO to get things moving again.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:43 am to
How is TRX still leading in volume day after day with very little movement?
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:57 am to
quote:

we need a coin to cause serious FOMO to get things moving again.


That almost feels like VEN at this point.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:03 pm to
1. total amount of coins

2. its a shitcoin
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:26 pm to
ICX is slowly staging a comeback. Either way at the end of the month we will have so much Spicy Korean BBQ.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Spicy Korean BBQ
Posted by trux83LSU
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:42 pm to
so icx mainnet is on the 24th and DNV GL is having a joint conference with vechain at 8am the 24th as well. Could be a huge week for both.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

so icx mainnet is on the 24th and DNV GL is having a joint conference with vechain at 8am the 24th as well. Could be a huge week for both.


this is whats making this so difficult.

my original plan was

1. ride ven to $10

2. turn ven to icx for mainnet and conference

3. turn back into ven for rebrand


the crash completely FUBAR'd this by making their rises potentially coincide with one another. I expected ven to hit $10 2 weeks ago. now I can't tell which is going to have the higher % gains in the coming weeks.
Posted by trux83LSU
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:49 pm to
I've seen some things saying ven to $100 by the end of the year and honestly they steady have news of partnerships and if this thing about bank of china happens who knows what will happen with it.

I feel like they will both climb pretty far over time from what i've seen on them. ICX may be better short time though. who knows at this point.
Posted by LZ83
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:49 pm to
I’m leaving mine in ICX.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:53 pm to
Might want to wait until 26 JAN when the BTC futures contract expires and then may be able to get VEN at a slight discount. Although lately it seems decoupled from BTC.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

I've seen some things saying ven to $100 by the end of the year


look at marketcap.



quote:

VeChain prices based on CMC rank. Q4 Prices assume that the total market cap grows by 5x.


market cap increasing by 5x to 2.5T might be a little ambitious but assuming some mixture of VEN mooning and market cap increasing, you're looking at ~40-50 at EOY as a conservative estimate.

If it breaks top 10 MC like many think and you see a 5x marketcap rise, then 100+ is totally feasible.

friend of mine who is big into vechain thinks 30 by EOM feb is totally in the realm of possibility but I wonder if his outlook is colored by his hodlings.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:59 pm to
What do those figures represent?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:08 pm to
column on the far left is the current market cap in usd. the two columns on the right represent what VEN would be worth per coin if they had that same cap.

IE: "how much would VEN be worth if it had STELLAR's market cap right now?" the answer is approximately $30/coin.

the far right column is a speculation on where VEN would be if it were to take that position in the market cap and the total cap for crypto increased 5x by end of Q4.

IE: "How much would VEN be worth if it was #10 in rank of MC and the MC increased 5x?" the answer is $150.

the graph is a lot of speculation but its interesting fodder none-the-less as some people believe ven will be somewhere in the top 10 of MC by Q4.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:10 pm to
Ah, got it. That's a pretty fun chart to dream about.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:13 pm to
It is. Personally, I think somewhere between 10-15m MC by EOY is a reasonable expectation for VEN assuming something stupid doesnt happen like VEN being bought out and owned/adopted by pboc. Then the $100-150-$200/coin moonshot predictions are possible.
Posted by weurf3
nola
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:14 pm to
What’s happening with Ethereum? Made a buy and hold 9 months ago.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:16 pm to
This week and next will be big factors in my plan for VEN and ICX. If these events for ICX don't give it a big boost, I might get cold feet and finally do what I've been thinking about doing, which is just throwing all my finds into ETH, cold storing and walking away until Christmas.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:18 pm to
I honestly don't know. I've heard cautious predictions of 1500-2k by EOY all the way to ambitious 3-5k EOY predictions.

I've even heard of a "flippening" prediction where people drop all/most their BTC and turn it into ETH.

I will say I personally believe ETH is being manipulated heavily right now to keep the corrected price suppressed- the primary reason people do this is to be able to accumulate as much as possible.
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