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Posted on 7/23/21 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 6:54 pm to
Most of those graphs don't consider the amount of money pulled away from other assets it would take for BTC to reach those levels.

At 200K thats around a 4 trillion market cap. That money has to come from somewhere.

You cant just slap all time highs of 18k and 200k on a graph and treat them the same.

ETA: Im not saying BTC wont ever get to 200k, I am investing in it in hopes that it does, but it would need to take major market cap from other assets, when that wasn't the case for the previous ATH.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 6:58 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:03 pm to
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At 200K thats around a 4 trillion market cap. That money has to come from somewhere.


gold (10T) and bonds (100T) in the near term and then real estate (eventually)
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13425 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

meaningful bullrun may occur around next halvening where we reach what we thought we were supposed to be getting now.

If we are waiting until mid-2024 for all time highs that is a brutal winter and maybe the longest ever
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:08 pm to
Hence why retarded projects need to die off.

This market cap issue you’re describing is a big part of why we only get 60k so far.

Market cap increased very similarly to 2017/2018 but BTC did not.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:14 pm to
That would actually be what we’ve always seen- ATHs are typically separated by 3.5 years.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:22 pm to
pumping Friday night after low volume into the daily close lol
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5533 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

If we are waiting until mid-2024 for all time highs that is a brutal winter and maybe the longest ever



Bitcoin mainstream acceptance will be a far more important driver than the next halving.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 7:34 pm
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5533 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:46 pm to
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It’ll run to 35-36 again


I haven't had much luck with my "trade portfolio" on CBP. I currently have a sell order at $36,300. Im trying to get 15% per trade; maybe that's a little greedy and I should try for 10% or lower with more trades.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82094 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:09 pm to
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Will Clemente
@WClementeIII

Bitcoin Daily RSI has officially broken out of a 7 month long resistance


LINK

Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:04 pm to
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So I am toying around with some different tools


What does this mean for long term accumulators who are using DCA? Is there a year to double down? What if the low target it doesn't come? What percentage chance do we have at seeing another ATH?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:50 am to
It means anything below 30k is a good dca for the time being if you’re itching to spend now. Can’t be sure it won’t go lower until it drops well below 30. We already sort of knew that but 31-32k is the 350d moving average and death crossing that will send it lower.

As far as if there’s gonna be another ATH, you really have to decide that for yourself. Half the indicators said we really undershot our ATH and should go higher, the other half say we’re done.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:06 am to
This weekend has been juicy. Bull trap or signs of life? The pessimist in me thinks bull trap.

I'm just using the profits to take some extra usdc aave loans.. I don't want to buy right now
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 8:08 am
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82094 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:28 am to
On chain analysis is saying this is likely just the beginning of a run up. Feels like we just need a catalyst for it to rocket again
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:31 am to
It’s not a bull trap until it flirts with 36k. Two weeks ago was a bull trap.

Last week was a bear trap flirting with 29k.


Right now it’s just volatility. But going to 36k again after that heavy dip will be a sign of strength- capping out around 34.5-35 is meh.
Posted by TheDuke5524
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2015
1413 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:51 am to
First down day all week so far. Can’t complain too much I suppose. However, every time this week that is has dipped 2% it followed up by finishing ~2% up for the day. Good rebounds
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 9:58 am
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13425 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:58 am to
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That would actually be what we’ve always seen- ATHs are typically separated by 3.5 years.

Not gonna happen. If 64k was the macro top we are in a new paradigm and all past cycles are mostly irrelevant
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 10:03 am to
I don't think it would influence the timeline THAT much- wind was just sucked out of sails + the natural logarithm of BTC.

That website I was spamming earlier had a neat little graph showing BTC making "lower highs" and "lower floors" through each cycle into the future which would be commensurate with what we're seeing now.

Alt coins are the future of big gainz until BTC hits a bigger adoption phase.

This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 10:04 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 10:40 am to
LINK

this graph is interesting. Hashrate vs. price.

Hash rate pretty clearly looks like a pseudo-cap for price. I'm trying to figure out the rationale of this. Is it because less people mining means miners are willing to sell for less? Whereas if more people mine, then they get a smaller chunk of the pie and want to sell for more to make it worth their time?

Don't know, but you can see when we pinged off 60k multiple times, it was at the hash rate logarithm.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:08 am to
the end of the month options expiry is typically where we see some downward pressure. that's wed so we will see. a lot of shorts right now that might get squeezed if big buyers come

Posted by barbapapa
Member since Mar 2018
3810 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:33 pm to
Helluva week
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