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Obama's Recovery Has Failed; Dow 20,000 Not Far Off

Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:29 am
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 1:29 am
Above are 2 headlines at MSNMoney.com.

Which is it? If the recovery fails, the automakers fall, the insurance companies fall, the banks and financials fall.

Gloom and Doom sells papers.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 2:21 am to
The two abiding rules for editors today:

1.) Bad news sells, good news smells; and

2.) Troll the haters.

Any mention of Obama's name serves Rule 2. Easy money.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 6:28 am to
I am under the belief personally that we are just propped up by quantitative easing. I hope I am wrong but I we will eventually find out.

I am not a financial wiz like most on here but, I also think if you compare prices to the price of gold ... They're not far off from the ratio when things were much cheaper. I hope that does not hold true for the markets.

However,I do enjoy how you want to give all the credit to Obama for bailing out the banks but most folks want the 1st bailout money that was appropriated during Bush's tenure but spent under Obama's to count for spending under Bush. I wasn't a fan of either but if you give credit to one you should give to both.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80057 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:12 am to
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Obama's Recovery Has Failed; Dow 20,000 Not Far Off



Replace Obama with Bernanke....

How many billions a month is the Fed spending to prop up the markets? I've said it many times, I think he stops pumping a few months before Obama leaves office.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62355 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:41 am to
At what cost? Ask yourself that. Look at the deficits under Obama, and then look at total Jobs created from when he took office, and those that dropped out....The monetary policy has left no refuge for anyone to place their money anywhere else , but the Stock Market. What happens when sanity returns?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80057 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:43 am to
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What happens when sanity returns?


Exactly...

I think the moment it is announced that the Fed stops pumping, the market will tank exactly like 08/09... -500 days over and over again.

Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:54 am to
i agree

not only that but the interest rates will jump way up over night as the bond market will be dead.

Real estate will also take a dump or at the very least become stagnant
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112348 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:26 am to
Friday's NYT is totally schitzo. The front page announces the good news of the unemployment numbers crediting Obama. The editorial page announces the bad news of the unemployment numbers blaming the sequester.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62355 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:19 am to
Crazy, ain't it. I bet they are happy all those people dropped out of the workforce to get the percentage down...Wow, another win in their eyes..its like the Twilight freaking zone...
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70621 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:48 am to
They can both be true. The Wall Street fat cats are doing well thanks to corporate welfare, while Main Street is getting the shaft.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58056 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:50 am to
You will not get either side to agree on any news reports about the stock market or economy. It's all about speaking the party BS, and nothing about reading numbers/reports, etc.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84765 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:50 am to
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However,I do enjoy how you want to give all the credit to Obama


I don't want to give him all the credit but it's only fair since TD.com gave him all the blame when the DOW was down a few years ago.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25363 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 11:02 am to
Obama is a Corporatist. Corporations are profiting under his presidency. What a majestic anomaly.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112348 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 11:33 am to
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They can both be true. The Wall Street fat cats are doing well thanks to corporate welfare, while Main Street is getting the shaft.


But that's not the contradiction. BTW, it's Sat's NYT. The contradiction is that page one trumpets the just released unemployment numbers as wonderful while the last page laments that the just released unemployment numbers are horrible. They can't be described as good and bad by the same source.
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