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Mortgage rates continue to drop

Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:32 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28244 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:32 pm
4.3% for 15 year
3.6% for 5/1 arm

How much lower can they reasonably go? What would cause them to rise?

How significant is it that 15 year rates are at record lows but the 30 year is not? Does this signify a bet that the recovery will not be significant through this decade?

Its almost like the banks are daring people to buy houses and refinance... Does the housing market remain bleak? Is this like drug dealers giving the first hit for free?
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38433 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:45 pm to
Didn't know the 15 was that low. I think I may refi.
Posted by Sick Freak
Member since Sep 2009
153 posts
Posted on 5/14/10 at 11:10 am to
Two days ago I checked them

15 year 4.2
30 year 4.75

I need them to hold this low for about 7 more months.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21505 posts
Posted on 5/14/10 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

I need them to hold this low for about 7 more months.


at least until i sell my Colorado house.
Posted by TigerFanatic1
Monroe, LA
Member since Aug 2007
2127 posts
Posted on 5/14/10 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Didn't know the 15 was that low. I think I may refi.

I wanted to, but the closing costs are too high for me. I am currently at 5.375% on a 30 year and I don't see it saving me any money with a refi.
Posted by Sick Freak
Member since Sep 2009
153 posts
Posted on 5/14/10 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

I wanted to, but the closing costs are too high for me. I am currently at 5.375% on a 30 year and I don't see it saving me any money with a refi.


I was alway told that if you can drop your APR 1% or more then it will save you money.

You might be able to use a mortgage calculator to get a better idea of what you will be in for.

as for closing cost most banks look something like this

1% of the loan amount
17.00 (estimate) flood determination
500.00 (estimate) attorney fees to prepare the mortgage work
300 (estimate) recording cost
500 (estimate) appraisal fee
250 (estimate) underwriting fee

This post was edited on 5/14/10 at 3:40 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic1
Monroe, LA
Member since Aug 2007
2127 posts
Posted on 5/14/10 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Sick Freak

I have always heard the same, but I didn't give all the information. My kicker is that, I have 25 years 2 months left on the loan. I figured up last year what it would take for me to pay the loan off in 10 years, so I pay that amount now and will have it paid off in 9 years if I keep it up. When I run the numbers, my not won't change by much, except the principal will go up and I will pay less in interest. It is about a wash to me, when I figure in writing off the extra interest instead of having the extra principal.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28244 posts
Posted on 5/14/10 at 9:16 pm to
I want to refi really badly right now, but I'm not currently living in my home so it counts as an investment property. Still worth it, but if it holds for a few more months, I'll be back in the home.
Posted by Things and stuff
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
3579 posts
Posted on 5/14/10 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

I wanted to, but the closing costs are too high for me. I am currently at 5.375% on a 30 year and I don't see it saving me any money with a refi.


I got that same rate, for conventional and 20% down (locked in 2 days ago). I shouldn't complain, considering my credit history.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11375 posts
Posted on 5/15/10 at 12:24 am to
Pisses me off. I locked in two weeks ago at 4.25% for a 10 year. I am sure it is less now.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7383 posts
Posted on 5/15/10 at 2:38 am to
I am currently in a 15 yr loan at 6 percent. I have about 12 and 1/2 yrs left. I was thinking about refinancing to a 10 yr. We will probably move in 2-3 yrs though so not sure if it's worth it.
Posted by David Wooderson
in make believe
Member since May 2009
239 posts
Posted on 5/15/10 at 2:52 am to
To the poster above 10yr is only at 4.125% today at par. If you are moving in 2-3 yrs don't waste your time you will not recover the closing cost during that time. If you decide to stay then the 10yr was at 4.125% today and it would definitely be worth your while
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28244 posts
Posted on 5/15/10 at 3:46 am to
quote:

I am currently at 5.375% on a 30 year and I don't see it saving me any money with a refi.


You could probably take negative points to drive down the bank fees to almost nothing and still have a lower rate.
Posted by TigerFanatic1
Monroe, LA
Member since Aug 2007
2127 posts
Posted on 5/15/10 at 5:36 am to
quote:



You could probably take negative points to drive down the bank fees to almost nothing and still have a lower rate.

I will look into this, because I haven't even heard of this.
Posted by FriscoKid
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
5202 posts
Posted on 5/15/10 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Two days ago I checked them 15 year 4.2 30 year 4.75


what bank? I am starting to look, thanks
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28244 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 5:07 am to
Bump Update:
30yr - 4.8
15yr - 4.16!
5/1 - 3.78

I thought I might have missed the lows a few weeks ago, but they have begun sliding once again. It's getting to the point of insanity if you haven't refinanced and have 10 years left on your loan.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 6:15 am to
I am absolutely amazed at the levitation in rates, I will say that. Zero bump after the Fed ended the MBS buybacks. I guess since the GSEs make up 90+% of the US market now, as long as investors believe pols won't press the proverbial red button, they're fine with the current rock bottom spread. I almost want to buy a house just so I can borrow at that rate.
Posted by dancnkc
kansas
Member since Jun 2010
28 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 7:39 am to
Because banks are sitting on bailout cash - keeping rates low hoping the feds don't force them to start loaning that money. Inflation is most definitely coming though...Printing billions of dollars above the gold standard is creating an inflation certainty
Posted by Interception
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 12:11 pm to
I see interest rates remaining low for an extended period of time. Inflation is not on any kind of rapid rise. My sense, is US bond markets are going to continue to be seen as the best place to protect your money until commodities and equities become more stable. Of course, the more bond demand the lower the rates will remain. I dont think the Fed got the stones to raise interest rates with the housing market on the brink and the mid-terms just around the corner?

I believe we are in the "eye of the storm" right now and by staying liquid you will get some amazing bargins in the next two years if patient.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 11:14 am to
first who are you guys quoteing rates from? please dont tell me bankrate. second explain negative points?
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