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Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:23 am to
Morgan Stanley and Merrill charge extra just for their name. It is stupid how expensive they are especially considering Merrill wouldn't even be here if Bank of America didn't rescue their arse.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4587 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:41 am to
Advisors typically cut down on their book as they grow. The PITA clients who complain about fees and market volatility are typically the first to be fired or given to the new apprentice.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7540 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:01 am to
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Did you want to bail in 2008 or 2009? An advisor that kept you invested and on track during 2008 and 2009 is well worth 100 to 150 basis points.

No. I threw every remaining nickel I had into the market right near the bottom. I was a young investor and knew I had plenty of time. I don't have any emotional reaction to gains or losses. My primary benefit of their track system was the loss harvesting and some other ancillary benefits they offered. Creation of a will, projected return on my first rental property. That was nice at time, but now I have the ability to run the analysis.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15764 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

The PITA clients who complain about fees and market volatility are typically the first to be fired or given to the new apprentice.


I called her to let her know I’ll be switching everything to Fidelity out of respect. We spoke once a year when she would call me to check in. I had a traditional IRA and Roth IRA each in a separate mutual fund. There was zero maintenance for her.

She asked why I was switching and told her bc of fees. She said that bc of where I have my money and how I invest, it doesn’t make sense for me to be with MS. She offered to help me with the conversion.

So your assessment is incorrect. She worked harder on my account by me leaving than she ever did managing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84896 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 12:53 pm to
Good deal.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41195 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 3:24 pm to
I used to deal with Morgn Stanley when I was young, father recommended them. Once I realized what I was paying in fees, I moved to Fidelity.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1576 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 3:50 pm to
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The PITA clients who complain about fees and market volatility are typically the first to be fired


You also have to "release" clients who won't meet with you (I give up to 18 months for a least a phone review bc life happens) or consistently don't follow through with what they say they're going to do. The opposite of PITA is asleep at the wheel, but it's just as frustrating if you can see that they are a sinking ship.

Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
96199 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:50 pm to
I’ve been paying 1% for a managed account for the last 10 years.
You are getting ripped at 1.5%.
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