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Mining for Bitcoin
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:07 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:07 am
Can someone please explain this to me like I'm 5?
Why does Bitcoin have to be "mined"? Why are these supercomputers necessary to do it? What does it truly accomplish?
I thought Bitcoin was just some unregulated currency. So now with this whole mining process for it, I'm really confused.
Thank you in advance.
Why does Bitcoin have to be "mined"? Why are these supercomputers necessary to do it? What does it truly accomplish?
I thought Bitcoin was just some unregulated currency. So now with this whole mining process for it, I'm really confused.
Thank you in advance.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:11 am to ragincajun03
I think google is best to answer this.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:22 am to ragincajun03
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Can someone please explain this to me like I'm 5?
Why does Bitcoin have to be "mined"? Why are these supercomputers necessary to do it? What does it truly accomplish?
I thought Bitcoin was just some unregulated currency. So now with this whole mining process for it, I'm really confused.
Thank you in advance.
This is really something you have to study. There has to be work involved for something to have real value.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:35 am to ragincajun03
The mining is a decentralized method for verification of the network.
In a nutshell
In a nutshell
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:43 am to Pendulum
And the computers that are used for the mining apparently use a shite ton of power, right. I’ve heard from electricity hookups to natural gas generators.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:03 am to ragincajun03
A way to make it valuable. Need energy to create bitcoin.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:13 am to ragincajun03
Yes, but they aren't really computers, just asics.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:19 am to ragincajun03
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This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:38 am to ragincajun03
Let me take a whack at it
Bitcoin is secured by one simple math problem: factoring really really big numbers.
You and I can factor the number 15 into 3 and 5. Mining a bitcoin is simply solving the question of “what are the two factors of the number 74727777550391715366388580103?”
Turns out that’s a really hard question to answer (when it’s a prime number). Tons of research has gone into how to solve this and long story short it’s impossible to do it easily. It’s called a one way function (or a hash) which you can read up on.
Since it’s so hard to solve, you need several fast specialized computers to have any real shot at mining a bitcoin. It’s expensive to run the power supplies for them, but more expensive to keep them from overheating with air conditioning.
Bitcoin is secured by one simple math problem: factoring really really big numbers.
You and I can factor the number 15 into 3 and 5. Mining a bitcoin is simply solving the question of “what are the two factors of the number 74727777550391715366388580103?”
Turns out that’s a really hard question to answer (when it’s a prime number). Tons of research has gone into how to solve this and long story short it’s impossible to do it easily. It’s called a one way function (or a hash) which you can read up on.
Since it’s so hard to solve, you need several fast specialized computers to have any real shot at mining a bitcoin. It’s expensive to run the power supplies for them, but more expensive to keep them from overheating with air conditioning.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:34 pm to ragincajun03
Watch the 3Blue1Brown video on how the network functions here. He most likely explains it better than anyone here will for someone super new to the idea.
The long and short of it is the mining makes it financially prohibitive to attempt to defraud the Bitcoin network. Because it requires energy, a financial reward is given to those who would help secure the network for every block they help validate.
The long and short of it is the mining makes it financially prohibitive to attempt to defraud the Bitcoin network. Because it requires energy, a financial reward is given to those who would help secure the network for every block they help validate.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 1:18 pm to wileyjones
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It’s expensive to run the power supplies for them, but more expensive to keep them from overheating with air conditioning
Which is why you hear about people mining in Iceland. Cheap electricity for the computers and cooler ambient air to pump through the buildings.
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The long and short of it is the mining makes it financially prohibitive to attempt to defraud the Bitcoin network.
Much easier to just hack the exchanges.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 2:39 pm to Decisions
quote:easiest is to hack the person
Much easier to just hack the exchanges.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:20 pm to ragincajun03
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Why does Bitcoin have to be "mined"? Why are these supercomputers necessary to do it? What does it truly accomplish?
I thought Bitcoin was just some unregulated currency. So now with this whole mining process for it, I'm really confused.
There is much more to it, but think of it like your every day VISA use.
When you swipe your Visa, Visa is actually covering the funds, validating, processing, securing, and charging a fee.
One part of the Bitcoin Network operates much like this. However, instead of centrally owned datacenters from Visa, Mastercard, AMEX, Amazon, your bank, etc, BTC miners verify all of these transactions by supplying hashing power to the network.
So say Visa can handle 10,000 transactions a second. Think of that like a block. People around the US swipe and fill a block up. You could imagine that in many cases, more than 10,000 transactions get sent in per-second. They can get in line and transactions get processed in sort of a backlog. That is why your bank might show pending for a few days.
With Bitcoin mining, it is much like this. Blocks get filled with transactions and all the "miners" verify these transactions via SHA-256 and report this to a public ledger. These prevents double spend, fraud etc. For their efforts, they are rewarded a fee, Bitcoin. This is the incentive mechanism.
How is it secure? Because the hashing power was built on decentralization and rewards (fees). As hashing power comes on (more miners working) security increases as it would take a miner controlling 51% of the hash power on the network to cause a security incident. However, an additional layer to the network is the SHA-256 itself. It would need quantum computing not yet present to break the actual blocks of transactions. (im off in the weeds now).
So anyway, the very basics of the Bitcoin network puts the financial system in the open public and miners are incentivized to participate via rewards (fees). So instead of a centralized policy authority, the network runs based on an open source decentralized mesh-network principle. Border-less and trustless. The code is open, secure, and all transactions are public knowledge.
Not a perfect explanation, but this is how I would explain it to you if we were at a bar having a drink.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:58 pm to JayDeerTay84
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this is how I would explain it to you if we were at a bar having a drink
Well I asked to explain as if I was 5 years old, so you’d be contributing to delinquency of a minor.
Appreciate it.
If it helps anyone wanting to explain further to me, I’m not trying to make personal money off of this. I do know that oil & gas operators who can’t flare gas anymore are looking at this as a way to produce their product without flaring, providing natural gas to these computers/machines mining for this Bitcoin. So I was curious how all this shite sets up.
Thank you!
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:24 pm to ragincajun03
You and your fellow fishing buddies are standing on the bank of a river with fish (Bitcoin transactions) flowing by and every once in a while, you catch one (with your miner), confirm it's a fish (a real transaction), and get paid by the Dept. of Genuine Fish (Bitcoin) for that service.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:29 pm to ragincajun03
Wikipedia has a very good explanation.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:03 pm to ragincajun03
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Can someone please explain this to me like I'm 5?
The pod contains dozens of seeds, which are planted in a spot that enjoys cool, sunny summers and dry winters. Seedlings grow in the same spot for a couple of summers until they form a bulb large enough to produce a flower. Once flowering finishes, the original bulb forms small bulblets at the base.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:43 pm to ragincajun03
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Mining for Bitcoin
slow, extremely expensive, consumes lots of power
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 12:45 pm
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